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Scientific Accuracy

Another striking evidence of divine inspiration is found in the fact that many of the principles of modern science were recorded as facts of nature in the Bible long before scientist confirmed them experimentally. A sampling of these would include:

Roundness of the earth (Isaiah 40:22)

Almost infinite extent of the sidereal universe (Isaiah 55:9)

Law of conservation of mass and energy (II Peter 3:7)

Hydrologic cycle (Ecclesiastes 1:7)

Vast number of stars (Jeremiah 33:22)

Law of increasing entropy (Psalm 102:25-27)

Paramount importance of blood in life processes (Leviticus 17:11)

Atmospheric circulation (Ecclesiastes 1:6)

Gravitational field (Job 26:7)

and many others.
These are not stated in the technical jargon of modern science, of course, but in terms of the basic world of man's everyday experience; nevertheless, they are completely in accord with the most modern scientific facts.

It is significant also that no real mistake has ever been demonstrated in the Bible—in science, in history, or in any other subject. Many have been claimed, of course, but conservative Bible scholars have always been able to work out reasonable solutions to all such problems.

Unique Structure

The remarkable structure of the Bible should also be stressed. Although it is a collection of 66 books, written by 40 or more different men over a period of 2,000 years, it is clearly one Book, with perfect unity and consistency throughout.

The individual writers, at the time of writing, had no idea that their message was eventually to be incorporated into such a Book, but each nevertheless fits perfectly into place and serves its own unique purpose as a component of the whole. Anyone who diligently studies the Bible will continually find remarkable structural and mathematical patterns woven throughout its fabric, with an intricacy and symmetry incapable of explanation by chance or collusion.
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The one consistent theme of the Bible, developing in grandeur from Genesis to Revelation, is God's great work in the creation and redemption of all things, through His only Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.


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JESUS DID THE ORGANIZING for His church and whenever men go beyond that pattern (found only in the New Testament of Jesus Christ) they do so at their own peril. One needs to only read the New Testament to see the problem that has been created over the last two centuries within the churches.
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I would call that stretching the text just a wee bit!

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Do you really want to go there Breeze?  I can list as many or more science errors.  The Bible is good for moral instruction but a very poor science text.
Besides, some of those things are so obvious anyone with two brain cells to rub together can figure them out.  Do you really need the Bible to tell you there are a vast number of stars in the sky?  Really?  Is that really something you never could have figured out without the Bible?  Or that keeping blood on the inside is an important part of staying alive?
I agree with White Pride.  To claim these are some sign that the Bible had these great scientific mysteries figured out is stretching things more than a wee bit.


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The remarkable structure of the Bible should also be stressed. Although it is a collection of 66 books, written by 40 or more different men over a period of 2,000 years, it is clearly one Book, with perfect unity and consistency throughout.

The individual writers, at the time of writing, had no idea that their message was eventually to be incorporated into such a Book, but each nevertheless fits perfectly into place and serves its own unique purpose as a component of the whole. Anyone who diligently studies the Bible will continually find remarkable structural and mathematical patterns woven throughout its fabric, with an intricacy and symmetry incapable of explanation by chance or collusion.

The one consistent theme of the Bible, developing in grandeur from Genesis to Revelation, is God's great work in the creation and redemption of all things, through His only Son, the Lord Jesus Christ                                                                                                                                                                  .                                                                                      It is impossible to govern without God and the Bible.
George Washington


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Have you actually read the whole Bible?  It is contradicts itself all over the place.  The two versions of Genesis can't even agree on what was created on which day.
The Old Testament God is a war God and very vengeful even against innocents.  The New Testament God is one of love for others and forgiveness.  Does God have huge personality shifts often?  
Stretching the truth and Lying for God does not help bring people into Christianity.  All you do is convince them that Christianity is built on lies and fairy tales.  The more you proclaim the Bible is without error, the more glaring the inconsistencies are to outsiders.

You do more harm than good by parroting these false "facts."


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Another thing.  Which version of the Bible do you claim is the one true version?  Different versions contain different books and differing translations.  How did you decide the one you chose is the correct one and how have so many others been lead astray and chosen the wrong version?  Does reading the wrong version make someone less Christian or even not a true Christian?

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Have you actually read the whole Bible?  It is contradicts itself all over the place.  The two versions of Genesis can't even agree on what was created on which day.
The Old Testament God is a war God and very vengeful even against innocents.  The New Testament God is one of love for others and forgiveness.  Does God have huge personality shifts often?  
Stretching the truth and Lying for God does not help bring people into Christianity.  All you do is convince them that Christianity is built on lies and fairy tales.  The more you proclaim the Bible is without error, the more glaring the inconsistencies are to outsiders.

You do more harm than good by parroting these false "facts."

Romans repeatedly tells us our understanding is darkened and that our sinful nature prevents us from understanding spiritual things. :angel:  This is why so many have difficulty with Faith and following the path of the Lord.
Further...
you first need to understand that areas of the Bible are not meant to be taken literally...for example, when they speak of Moses as being 900 yrs old it is a way of describing that he is very wise.  

Exactly where and what are the errors  in the Bible that you stated?
I am very curious to hear your specifics.  What are the false facts you describe?


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Another thing.  Which version of the Bible do you claim is the one true version?  Different versions contain different books and differing translations.  How did you decide the one you chose is the correct one and how have so many others been lead astray and chosen the wrong version?  Does reading the wrong version make someone less Christian or even not a true Christian?

The Bible contains much figurative language.  It communicates its message with use of symbolic figures and actions at times.  Many interpret the Bible allegorically :angel: My problem with what you stated is figuring out your meaning of version and different translations?  What is an example?


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For example the New American Standard Bible says this in Genesis 38:8-10

   Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.


And the King James Version says

And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


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For example the New American Standard Bible says this in Genesis 38:8-10

   Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.


And the King James Version says

And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Genesis 1 is the account of the creation of the universe and life on planet earth as it happened in chronological sequence. Genesis 2 is simply an expanded explanation of the events that occurred at the end of the sixth creation day - when God created human beings. Genesis one provides virtually no details about the creation of human beings (other than the idea that humans were created in the image of God). For a book that is dedicated to the relationship between humans and God, four verses seems like a rather poor explanation for the creation of God's preeminent creature. This is because Genesis one was never intended to stand apart from Genesis 2 and 3. Genesis 2 describes God's preparation of a specific location on earth (Eden) for habitation by the first human beings. Part of the confusion results from our English translations, which use the term "earth" when the Hebrew would better be translated "land." Read a modified NIV translation of the Genesis 2 account to see how the text should read.


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