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Liberal
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2011,11:32 am |
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Are you trying to say that an astronaut is an authority on religion? Is it because you think he's been closer to heaven?
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Post Number: 42
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Santorini
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2011,7:59 pm |
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(Counterfeit Fake @ Sep. 16 2011,8:53 am)
QUOTE (Santorini @ Sep. 15 2011,11:21 pm)
QUOTE [quote=Santorini,Sep. 15 2011,10:01 am] Read: The Second Law of Thermodynamicsit is one of the most powerful presentations of support against evolution Um, maybe you should read the Second Law a little more closely. The Second law does not apply to evolution or most natural things on Earth. The Second Law refers to closed systems. A closed system is one in which no new energy(heat) is being put into it. The Earth is not a closed system. The sun is constantly adding energy and thus supplying a method for chemicals to react. While things on Earth do tend toward Entropy, the input of energy from the Sun prevents a balanced state. Look at the water cycle. Put simply, all water wants to go to the oceans. But with the Sun adding energy, water is circulated back over land and the cycle continues. Same with weather, the Sun is ultimately responsible for the variations. Um, maybe you should read the Second Law a little more closely! The Second Law DOES apply to Earth and most natural things...AND the Universe! There are THREE systems...NOT just the closed system.
-------------- "Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turned out." Jack Buck
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Post Number: 45
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2011,10:21 pm |
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(Santorini @ Sep. 15 2011,11:21 pm)
QUOTE I QUOTED Pratt Check the beginning of my writing! No, I quoted Pratt. You had "Quote:" at the beginning of a two paragraph post with no end quote, no source, etc.
Why is it okay to believe whatever a Christian says regarding intelligent design or creationism with not proof or evidence, but than mock everyone else for being fooled by scientists?
QUOTE We are, scratch that, some are conditioned by society that when we hear anything that begins with Scientists say, that it is undeniably true.
No, I'd prefer to think for myself. I know that water boils and freezes at certain temperatures because I can prove it in my kitchen. If a scientist tells me otherwise I'll know he's either joking, has an IQ below room temperature, or he was educated in Dayton, Tennessee.
-------------- You know it's going to be a bad day when you cross thread the cap on the toothpaste.
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Post Number: 46
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Post Number: 47
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busybee
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2011,11:57 pm |
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the breeze
Posted on: Sep. 09 2011,9:17 am
QUOTE The remarkable structure of the Bible should also be stressed. Although it is a collection of 66 books, written by 40 or more different men over a period of 2,000 years, it is clearly one Book, with perfect unity and consistency throughout.
I think it should also be stressed that the Bible was written by "40 or more different men who were only human beings." Unless they were all men without fault, the Bible is not a "perfect unity" and "consistent throughout."
QUOTE The individual writers, at the time of writing, had no idea that their message was eventually to be incorporated into such a Book, but each nevertheless fits perfectly into place and serves its own unique purpose as a component of the whole. Anyone who diligently studies the Bible will continually find remarkable structural and mathematical patterns woven throughout its fabric, with an intricacy and symmetry incapable of explanation by chance or collusion.
The Bible will forever be based upon individual interpretations.
QUOTE The one consistent theme of the Bible, developing in grandeur from Genesis to Revelation, is God's great work in the creation and redemption of all things, through His only Son, the Lord Jesus Christ
Have you ever thought that maybe God's message hasn't ever been the "redemption of all things" because Jesus was murdered?
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Post Number: 48
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busybee
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Posted on: Sep. 17 2011,1:20 am |
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Liberal Posted on: Sep. 14 2011,5:49 pm
QUOTE I think it's partially the fear of eternal damnation, and partially the fear of what the neighbors will say if they quit attending church.
And...I say...who cares what the neighbors think and if I have to read the Bible and go to church to every week to save myself from being damned to hell...I'm going to take my chances with my God who hasn't told me I have to publically display my Faith in either way to "save" myself.
QUOTE Personally I think all Abrahamic religions are a little nutty considering who they're based. One of my earliest memories of church was listening to this story about a crazy guy with a voice in his head telling him to lure his child to an out of the way place and kill the child to prove that he believed in the voice in his head. The only thing that saved the poor kid was some dumb animal stumbled out of the woods and the voice told him to kill that instead.
I remember looking around at all the adults wondering if any of them had a voice in their head telling them to do crazy things like that.
I remember the same types of stories...scary stuff when you're a little kid wondering if God or the Devil controls the minds of the adults around you.
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