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White Pride 
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Posted on: Sep. 12 2011,2:25 am |
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QUOTE Actually, Judaism can be traced back to Abraham. Judaism and Christianity both consider themselves to be Abrahamic.
I am talking BEFORE this point in time...
QUOTE Most others were pagan beliefs like in the moon, sun, stars etc. because that is all they knew.
My point EXACTLY!
QUOTE Christians belief is that the Jewish religion is incomplete.
BINGO! Christians thinking they are better, know more, etc...
QUOTE Actually the Bible is more like a diary than a history book. It is actual accounts; witnessed accounts. That is what testament means
Actual accounts of moments in time = history. A diary is one person's life in written form. duh
QUOTE And the much of the New Testament is believed to be Divinely Inspired!
You said it.. "believed to be divinely inspired..." NO PROOF WHAT SO EVER!
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Dr. Pride here
I'm an ENGLISH speaking white GERMAN-AMERICAN, and DAMN PROUD OF IT!
What bothers people more... the fact others disagree w/them, or that the others just might be right after all?
If you're being stupid, acting stupid, or just plain stupid, I will not hesitate to let u know!
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Santorini
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Posted on: Sep. 14 2011,11:15 am |
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White Pride,
No PROOF that is WAS NOT divinely inspired 
You are simply making a statement based on science and as we all know science is fallable! Science as we all know is based on conjecture and theories.
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"Things turn out best for those who make the best
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Liberal
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Posted on: Sep. 14 2011,2:17 pm |
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Conjecture and theories? You really are screwed up in the head if you think science is fallible but goat herding cave dweller's fairy tales are infallible. 
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Sep. 14 2011,5:28 pm |
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People believe all that Biblical mumbo-jumbo because they feel to not believe is a one-way ticket to Hell. That's it. That's what they've been told by every evangelical they've heard since childhood.
Take away the threat of Hell, and the masses would exit the sanctuary in droves.
No true religion would need to resort to a carrot-and-stick scheme unless there was an ulterior motive at play, something a bit more diabolical than simply "saving everyone."
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Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Sep. 14 2011,5:49 pm |
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I think it's partially the fear of eternal damnation, and partially the fear of what the neighbors will say if they quit attending church.
Personally I think all Abrahamic religions are a little nutty considering who they're based. One of my earliest memories of church was listening to this story about a crazy guy with a voice in his head telling him to lure his child to an out of the way place and kill the child to prove that he believed in the voice in his head. The only thing that saved the poor kid was some dumb animal stumbled out of the woods and the voice told him to kill that instead.
I remember looking around at all the adults wondering if any of them had a voice in their head telling them to do crazy things like that.
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The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Sep. 14 2011,11:50 pm |
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QUOTE People believe all that Biblical mumbo-jumbo because they feel to not believe is a one-way ticket to Hell. Then I guess I have myself covered. I've no fear of eternal damnation.
QUOTE I think it's partially the fear of eternal damnation, and partially the fear of what the neighbors will say if they quit attending church.
There is nothing said that you have to attend church to be a Christian. In fact, attending church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a mechanic. A "church" is nothing more than a building where believers gather. It's the people in that building that make the church.
I don't have to prove there is a God, but you may take the chance that there isn't. QUOTE “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. -Matt. 10:32-34, 38, 39
As for your ideology of Abraham's sacrifice of his only son Isaac, God was testing Abraham's faith. Pure and simple. As Jesus said, "I do not come in peace, but with a sword." So many of us will be tested. For He also said that before He returns, QUOTE "For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
For those who do not believe and those who have allowed Satan to deafened your ears to not hear I want to let you know, all you have to do is listen for he says, QUOTE "Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me."
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Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2011,1:19 am |
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(Santorini @ Sep. 14 2011,11:15 am)
QUOTE No PROOF that is WAS NOT divinely inspired
I realize many religions, particularly "people of the book" must have a faith that a holy book is divinely inspired. But how do you expect someone to prove a negative?
You can't prove to me that any book is not divinely inspired. It's impossible.
Read this and tell me whether this is fallible or infallible, divinely inspired or not. Do it just from reading the text, forget any bias about religious preference before you answer.
QUOTE This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).
Those who believe in the unseen and keep up prayer and spend out of what We have given them.
And who believe in that which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter.
These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful.
Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
Santorini-
QUOTE You are simply making a statement based on science and as we all know science is fallable! Science as we all know is based on conjecture and theories.
Religion is infallible only because it says it is infallible. Science is more than just theories. A theory or hypothesis is just the start. You've said you have a science degree, maybe something in medicine or education. You must realize that science is more than just throwing theories out there.
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Santorini
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2011,9:40 am |
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(White Pride @ Sep. 14 2011,11:46 am)
QUOTE
(Santorini @ Sep. 14 2011,11:15 am)
QUOTE White Pride, No PROOF that is WAS NOT divinely inspired You are simply making a statement based on science and as we all know science is fallable! Science as we all know is based on conjecture and theories.
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The Principle of Science, the definition, is The test of all knowledge is experiment.
Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth. But what is the source of knowledge? Where do the laws that are to be tested come from?
Experiment itself helps to produce these laws, in the sense it gives us hints. But also needed is imagination to create from those hints the great generalizations---to guess at the wonderful, simple, but very strange patterns beneath them all, and to experiment to check again whether we have made the right guess. There is an expanding frontier of ignorance...things must be learned only to be unlearned again, or more likely corrected.
Theories are just our best explanation of facts.
In science facts refers to observations 
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"Things turn out best for those who make the best
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