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MADDOG 
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2004,1:34 pm |
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I haven't participated in this threat, nor read much of it. When I was in school, the principal have a big stick hanging on his wall as a deturance to kids getting out of line and behaving themselves. The writing on it said:
"BOARD OF EDUCATION"
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Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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| Post Number: 72
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2004,5:34 pm |
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Your are correct irisheyes, glad you pointed it out. It should have said "Just" working for the government does not make you an enforcer. I mean come on. I worked for the government in one capacity or another for more than 20 years. Does a government janitor or electrician carry a gun? Give me a break. I do not believe that a tester can carry a gun, or that ohsa or usda can as well, especially on a plane. If they can then it is an over reaction to 9/11, and brand new to me.
jimhanson, I agree that pilots should be allowed to carry guns if they wish. Most of them used to be military, let them carry. The Mythbusters on Discovery proved that a .45 caliber round will not cause sudden decompression of a plane even if it goes through a window or penetrates the skin. A reduced charge round like what the Marshalls carry is even less likely too. Give them to the pilots.
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Be not simply good, be good for something-Henry David Thoreau
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Feb. 21 2004,1:11 pm |
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From Mr. Tarzan| Quote | | Does a government janitor or electrician carry a gun? Give me a break. I do not believe that a tester can carry a gun, or that ohsa or usda can as well, especially on a plane. If they can then it is an over reaction to 9/11, and brand new to me. |
Unbelievable as it might seem, it is true that nearly any government employee can carry a weapon through a secured area. There is no requirement for these people to show need, proficiency with the weapon, documentation, or for them to undergo psycological screening. With government employees representing such a huge percentage of total population--that is a big hole in the screening process.
From Air Line Pilots Association position paper, in response to the TSA.| Quote | | Federal agents from many agencies including Department of Agriculture, Department of Education, FBI, Secret Service, HUD, HHS and others, as well as uniformed police officers and National Guard Soldiers, are authorized to carry firearms in secure airport areas. These agents, uniformed police officers and soldiers all carry firearms with them through airport facilities and terminals, and, in many cases, on board airplanes, without problems or undue risk. Armed airline pilots can be expected to do the same. |
The TSA, despite legislation passed by Congress, has deliberately made the arming of pilots so slow, cumbersome, and expensive that the program is virtually useless. The Air Line Pilots Assn. is currently lining up sponsors on a dual-track program--Congressional inquiry as to why TSA is not implementing the mandated program, and legislation reducing funding to TSA until they comply with the original legislation.
Mr. Tarzan--since you worked for the government for over 20 years--NOTHING should surprise you when it comes to differences between what a government program was designed to do and what is actually implemented.  (sarcasm--just kidding!)
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"If you want to anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to anger a LIBERAL, tell him the TRUTH!"
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 21 2004,5:54 pm |
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LOL  , you are correct jimhanson, nothing does surprise me, and the government is too big and out of control. Watching it in action has made me suspicious of it. I could tell you stories of things it is doing that no one would believe. That is scary, I used to hold a commercial pilots license, so I believe in the ALPA, and if that is what they are reporting, then I am inclined to believe them. Even more reason to arm the pilots.
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Be not simply good, be good for something-Henry David Thoreau
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Posted on: Feb. 23 2004,11:42 am |
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Back to Mr. Brist
Mr. Brist put phisical force on a student and nothing is being done to prevent this from happening again. What a school district we have here. I can't stop wondering what he is going to do next if someone doesn't step in and do something.
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alhs fan
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Posted on: Feb. 23 2004,7:35 pm |
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Well said parent! For the posts who say kids are lying and exagerating is bull. I said 10 kids but was guessing from what I saw in the crowd, not intentionally. 6 or 10 what is the difference, someone posted the exact number and none of this is exagerating. I seen it all. Why report to admin it does no good. They don't respect kids or parents. 
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Feb. 23 2004,8:44 pm |
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I'm the one that said some of the kids are lying and exagerating. All anyone has to do to see that is look at the first few pages of this thread! First someone said he "tried dragging a kid", next thing someone says "He dragged me 20 feet", it was the same incident but everything changed.
alhs fan-you first claimed he gave the kids breathalizer's, then we find out it was the police (I don't know of teacher's having breathalizer's to begin with). Now you claim you were wrong on the number of them but, "what's the difference" if it was 6 or 10? The difference is that when someone's story starts to dramatically change, its usually a good indicator of being false.
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