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10.50 with full benifits compared to staying home and living off the system???? How do you even compare that? maybe I'm just looking at this different, but if you are offered a full time job with benifits and you are living off the system, how can you refuse a job, and how can you back this person up?
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Every year the donks claim to be fighting the war on poverty on behalf of the poor.  Every year the donks add more and more entitlement programs, yet our poverty rates have remained roughly the same since the 1960's despite our expenditures having risen from around $25 billion in the 60's to over $500 billion today.

The donks have been exacerbating the problem of poverty with miriad of entitlement programs they have passed since Johnson's War on Poverty began.  The 700+ entitlement programs on the books to assist those in poverty are designed to ensure reliance on the government rather than self, leaving little incentive to change...generation after generation. The entitlement programs were not designed as an incentive for the poor to move out of poverty but for selfish political reasons of the liberal elite...nuff said.


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That is probably the most out of touch unrealistic article ever written. No idiot could possibly think these numbers or the advice given would work in the real world. It should titled "How to Maybe,Barely Exist on Minimum Wage".

Good grief, they even recommend for one to go ON government assistance!

Maybe they should have added, robbing a liquor store, making meth, selling a kidney, or prostituting yourself. These things all make about as much sense. :rofl:

Bottom line: Current minimum wage= Corporate welfare. Pure and simple.

When I was first out of school I had roommates, no car but I made a little more than minimum. I had a bike and extra money to burn because I had a full time job plus two part time jobs. It can be done.

As far as your other suggestions? I didn't have to because I wasn't a dumbass and go out a knock up some trailer park queen.

Prostitution? Nope, that's union people.

Really? So how much was your rent, food, utilities, taxes, etc, as a percentage for your income way back in the day? What you so obviously fail to realize is that the minimum basic cost of living has increased exponentially as compared to wages. It's unsustainable, and it's why we are in the train wreck we are today.  All these "back in the day" stories are meaningless because costs were more in line with income at the time. That same dollar back then bought a whole lot more than that same dollar does today.

I don't know much about " trailer park queens" or prostitutes, but it sounds like you seem to be an expert on them. :rofl:
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There are jobs out there... one just has to look...
BUT too many want M-F...no nights weekends or holidays.  When one is that picky...of course they will refuse jobs!

Its like the student loan fiasco...
I know one young person, recently married, new home, new baby, new job...complaining incessantly about high student loan debt..high payments etc., the unfairness...
Only after few drinks did she admit she's 120,000 in student loan debt!  Thing is she has a 2 year degree as an ultrasound tech....she didn't work in those 2 years...bought a new car...furnished a new apartment... parents cosigned loans... and now its time to pay back but its the system that's unfair!!


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I don't know much about " trailer park queens" or prostitutes, but it sounds like you seem to be an expert on them. :rofl:

Oh sure you do, just look around, you're quite educated. You and all your little buddies at work are prostitudes and people like Richard Trumka are your pimp.

I just find it sad that you don't realize it.


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Can a union person ask for a refund of their 2013 contributions?  And what happens if they no longer want to be in a union?  Times are tough out here.  The LP tank needs to get filled and that money could be used to fill it.
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You would be what I think they call "fair shared".  You pay a percent in but really have no benifits. It is really almost better to pay the litle above fair share and have the backing if needed. Just my 2 cents.
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I remember a big mac, fries, and a coke for $.99. Has wages kept up with todays cost?

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If you're having a problem finding good help maybe the workforce isn't the problem. :dunno:

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Can a union person ask for a refund of their 2013 contributions?  And what happens if they no longer want to be in a union?  Times are tough out here.  The LP tank needs to get filled and that money could be used to fill it.

If they really don't want their union job they are free to quit and find something better. Simple as that. As far as LP goes I guess all the non union folks can go and get fuel assistance.
My union dues are about 1/100th of my pay. Won't buy much LP with that refund.
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