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(Liberal @ Jan. 30 2014,12:04 pm)
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(MADDOG @ Jan. 30 2014,9:10 am)
QUOTE QUOTE As a rule if MD posts it, it's most likely BS he heard on talk radio or from some moron in Iowa.
Sorry, don't listen to talk radio. Even a moron can understand that Bambino has been leading the sheep down the wrong path by now. How is it that pill popping pervert Rush Limpbaugh has 20 million listeners when every conservative I know swears they don't listen to him? And just because you don't like the direction the country is moving in it doesn't mean it's the wrong direction. Love it, or leave it. 
Wow, that seems to be the standard answer of Expat and Alky. Now from you Lib, blaming Rush Limbo, kind of scaping the bottom of the barrel for lame excuses now.
Love it or leave it? Nope I'll have to join the change it crowd.
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(irisheyes @ Jan. 29 2014,12:49 pm)
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QUOTE I talked with some state reps on this last Aug. It really doesnt matter what the wage is if people are not looking for jobs. Many companies in the area offer a starting wage higher then 10.50/hr and yet nobody is knocking the doors down to apply. You're not paying enough, the old saying "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys" is still as true as ever. I hear plenty complain about "people these days, entitlement attitude", etc. Then you ask what they pay. Often the ones who complain the loudest answer that they start at minimum wage, maybe $8 or $9 an hour with no benefits. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys...
I thought the minimum wage type jobs were typically PT, no benefits, & were originally for the youth to gain training, experience, in preparation for higher paying positions or advancement?
That's why they are typically lower paying, service type jobs?
How is a restaurant suppose to keeps prices favorable to the public & pay wait staff $10 or more $$ an hour!!
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^ you need to quit listening to that Limbo guy, you'll rot your brain!
I find this funny that a lot of the libs on this forum quote or cite Limbaugh often when attacking the more sane thinking folk here.
So which is IE? Do you have a radio playing on the shelf above the sink where you're scrubbing dishes? Or an earpiece while you're welcoming people to Walmart? The job is worth what the job pays no more, no less. If a guy working a job has his wife tell him she's pregnant, can he automatically go to his boss and tell him he has to be paid more now because of his growing family? No, not unless he's going to offer more value for his wage. It's the same with the woman with kids who's hubby left her, I feel bad for her but it's not my problem or responsibility to take care of her.
This feel bad mentality for other peoples bad decisions at the expense of others is a bunch of bullsh!t. We need to stop this for then the bad choices will stop.
If you can't feed 'em Don't breed 'em.
Incidentally the only time I see any place bagging groceries is some school group raising $ for something, I gladly throw a few bucks.
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(grassman @ Jan. 31 2014,5:58 am)
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QUOTE Love it, or leave it. It's not either/or. You can work to change it too. Kind of like the ones that are trying to raise the minimum wage, right?
Yes. That is the point of how it is supposed to work.
There are those that are working against that notion.
That is what made this country great. Now we have the liar in chief threatening that he has a pen and he's not afraid to use it.
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(irisheyes @ Jan. 31 2014,2:26 am)
QUOTE You thought wrong, next time someone is bagging your groceries or waiting on your table there's a good likelihood they're middle aged or older. For them there isn't a likelihood of advancing much higher than the min wage. There's plenty who blame the workers themselves for the low pay, but when the factory laid them off or their spouse left them with kids to support many of them didn't have better prospects to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads. That's why we should raise it, even better would be to index it to keep pace with inflation/cost of living. QUOTE How is a restaurant suppose to keeps prices favorable to the public & pay wait staff $10 or more $$ an hour!! Limbaugh says everything in your post, almost verbatim. "Min wage jobs are just kids, gaining experience for advancement..." Don't believe the hype, it's been proven wrong again and again. I remember when they raised the min wage to $5.15 the pundits gave the same reasons why not to. They thought the price of a happy meal was going to skyrocket if we raised the minimum wage to $5.15 an hour.  Obviously none of those things happened. And it'll give the REAL job creators a chance to spur growth with more buying power.
Everyone's a victim. 
It's exhausting.
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(Common Citizen @ Jan. 30 2014,11:28 am)
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QUOTE Seriously. Go to your kitchen and find the dullest, most blunt instrument you can find. Look at it. Study it. Now...this item that you are staring at is still sharper than you. Let's put this in perspective. Coke has over 900 plants world wide employing over 150,000 people. What kind of economic impact do you think this company has on families and communities around the world. Think about the awesome responsibilities the management has to ensure this company stays in business.
I now know that you have no common sense or maybe no sense at all..
Many of the countries Coke is made, the employees can earn less than $3.00 a day..
Coke has been around for nearly a century and could function for at least the next two years with one of the 150,000 employees making $25,000 a year, OK I'll add a $5000 bonus if he can screw the employees out of higher wages and benefits..
$30 million salary makes no sense.. Just like you have no sense.. 
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(Common Citizen @ Jan. 30 2014,11:28 am)
QUOTE Let's put this in perspective. Coke has over 900 plants world wide employing over 150,000 people. What kind of economic impact do you think this company has on families and communities around the world. Think about the awesome responsibilities the management has to ensure this company stays in business.
I know they have to pay Washington lobbyists insane amounts of money so their poisons can stay on the market. I imagine once you achieve that, the big CEO salary is inevitable. Because paying off the FDA, an agency once commissioned to look beyond such fiscal matters and actually make decisions based on the well-being of U.S. citizens, is expensive. And if that's the level we have to take it to to make it in today's more dog-eat-dog-than-ever world, we're raising yet another generation of a-holes.
Anybody with half a brain can see that the current economic trends indicate that mega-corporations will continue to grow and absorb everything in their paths, until it's one or two left. And how are you going to differentiate between the wishes of the corporate and what your government does then?
Those of you touting the whole being more aggressive philosophy need to stop embracing this nonsense, and go spend some time with your kids, and stop thinking of yourselves as temporarily-distressed millionaires. And pick up a lottery ticket on the way home. Your chances are better there.
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