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Power Play??

Note from the US Postal Service..

I am just guessing here as I don't know specifically where this is; this is probably serviced by the rural postal carrier.  
1.  They are paid whatever the route is provisioned at, not hourly like the city side carriers.
2.  Most rural routes carriers are required to use their own vehicle (there are some routes that use LLV (mail trucks), but not too many) and as such, if you get stuck, you are on your own to get it unstuck and pay for any repairs on your own.
As many of you know, my wife works for the USPS (rural carrier) and we often get into arguments about how the USPS is run but knowing what they do pretty well and how things are run, plus having to repair her mail truck on MANY occasions, I wouldn't deliver that mail until the snow is cleared either.

I don't blame the carrier for not delivering based on what I have seen in the pictures.


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Careful so he doesn't take a dump on you.  :D

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This residence has been homesteaded by the same family for 47 years and this is the first time a notice by a postal carrier has ever been received..

I believe the carrier has a 4 wheel drive Jeep(Red) and mail amazingly continues to be delivered..

USPS has been made aware of the situation with Bancroft Township, Daniel Claussen and no turnaround on a dead end road in the winter.. USPS has been using the private circle drive at the dead end property to turn around during the winter..
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Careful so he doesn't take a dump on you.  :D

Denny Jensen enjoyed dumping snow in the driveway and turning around in the front yard..

Disrespect can have consequences..
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Well, it is private property and as such he can refuse the public access to it (including snow removal) unless other arrangements are/were made.  Growing up there was a section of gravel road between Neale and Bimelich that was owned by Sorensons that was private property, he allowed the public to use the road in exchange for the city to grade/plow the road.
Several years ago though when city widened and put in curb/gutters and asphalt though they wanted him to pay for it all on that stretch.  If you know the area, you know that the section between Neale and Bimelich is still gravel... that's another story.

I am just going by the pix, but I assume the carrier is getting out of the vehicle to deliver the mail.  This is fine, but can get tedious.  My wife will do it often, especially right after a snowfall but if it hasn't been cleared in days, they user will get a nasty gram, unless she knows the owner is otherwise incapable of clearing snow themselves.
Is this non clearing a new event this year?
I guess if the landowner is refusing access to removal they will need to start clearing the area around the mailbox themselves or risk getting more of those notices.  I don't know the mail carrier but with that much snow in the way I can't see them delivering it all the time.
There is possibly another issue with not clearing the (private) road in regards to fire code, but I am not to snuff on that.  I am sure someone else can chime in.


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1.  They are paid whatever the route is provisioned at, not hourly like the city side carriers.
2.  Most rural routes carriers are required to use their own vehicle (there are some routes that use LLV (mail trucks), but not too many) and as such, if you get stuck, you are on your own to get it unstuck and pay for any repairs on your own.

I've seen the rural carriers driving personal vehicles, mostly when I'd be driving down in Iowa.  Never thought about the costs incurred if they get stuck or damaged.  I can see why that'd make a hell of a big difference in whether they'd go to a mailbox that was snowed in if it'd cost them a hundred bucks or more to get back out if they got stuck.

I've always had city mail carriers.  I try to clear my sidewalks for them well, but that sidewalk has gotten more and more narrow this winter.   :blush:


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I've always had city mail carriers.  I try to clear my sidewalks for them well, but that sidewalk has gotten more and more narrow this winter.   :blush:

...and how!


Our mail carrier when I was a kid always used our driveway to turn around, I don't remember my Mom and Dad ever getting "pissy" about it.


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I don't know about the city side, but on the rural side they are not supposed to even use a driveway to turn around in.  They are not supposed to drive into a driveway if they have to deliver a package either.

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My mail box was located off the highway about 35' up my driveway.  We lived on a dangerous curve, so it was worked out that the rural carrier could turn around on our property.  Never thought of the arrangement being unusual, don't believe we had anything in writing.   [we lived in another county, not Freeborn]

Our mail carrier told me she "used up" a vehicle every two years.


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Bancroft turfwars.   :rofl:

All this snow is making people lose their minds. It's been a long winter.

This crap has been going on all winter with nothing done by Bancroft Township..

I'm only showing pictures from the last two times the road has been plowed, I have more..

Impassable Road (Minn Statute 163.16)

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=163.16
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