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Grinning_Dragon 
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Posted on: Jul. 11 2013,8:46 pm |
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(Botto 82 @ Jul. 11 2013,8:33 pm)
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 11 2013,5:41 pm)
QUOTE Why is the judge moving the goal posts in this trial.
He was charged with 2nd degree, the only thing a jury needs to decide is yes or no on 2nd degree. The jury needs to nullify the judges order of including manslaughter. I thought manslaughter needed to be a lesser included charge for it to be considered by the jury. Remember when Tobias Telles killed Robbie Walker in Austin? The prosecution went for first-degree murder, and only that, and was unable to prove its case, so Telles walked. Isn't this kind of like that?
That is what I am thinking, I thought it odd that the judge and prosecution, out of the blue start throwing out charges, during a trial for 2nd degree murder. If the jury is smart, they would dismiss any and all additional BS, such as this.
If the state is afraid of a riotous mob, and is grasping for straws just to charge and convict one man, just to keep the peace, is justice being served or perverted? I would think the latter. A persons Liberty trumps the feelings of an angry mob.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Jul. 11 2013,10:57 pm |
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 11 2013,8:46 pm)
QUOTE If the state is afraid of a riotous mob, and is grasping for straws just to charge and convict one man, just to keep the peace, is justice being served or perverted? I would think the latter. A persons Liberty trumps the feelings of an angry mob.
You keep assuming that Zimmerman is innocent. In my free time, whenever I can, I've been watching court testimony and police interviews with Zimmerman, I wasn't sure if his actions fit the charge of 2nd degree murder, but the more testimony and information I see, the more I lean that way. Without a doubt, I think he is guilty of manslaughter.
I looked it up, apparently it is standard procedure in Florida to grant the option of lesser charges in murder cases if either side requests it.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 11 2013,11:12 pm |
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Jul. 11 2013,10:57 pm)
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 11 2013,8:46 pm)
QUOTE If the state is afraid of a riotous mob, and is grasping for straws just to charge and convict one man, just to keep the peace, is justice being served or perverted? I would think the latter. A persons Liberty trumps the feelings of an angry mob. You keep assuming that Zimmerman is innocent. In my free time, whenever I can, I've been watching court testimony and police interviews with Zimmerman, I wasn't sure if his actions fit the charge of 2nd degree murder, but the more testimony and information I see, the more I lean that way. Without a doubt, I think he is guilty of manslaughter. I looked it up, apparently it is standard procedure in Florida to grant the option of lesser charges in murder cases if either side requests it.
Yes I do consider Zimmerman to be innocent, he has not been found guilty by a jury of his peers and sentenced by a judge. Consider me odd if I do not tow the, "OMG, that man had a gun and killed someone, therefore he is automatically guilty!"
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Jul. 11 2013,11:48 pm |
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GD:
QUOTE If the state is afraid of a riotous mob, and is grasping for straws just to charge and convict one man, just to keep the peace, is justice being served or perverted? I would think the latter. A persons Liberty trumps the feelings of an angry mob.
And how would justice be served by letting a guilty man get away with murder?
QUOTE A persons Liberty trumps the feelings of an angry mob
And a young man's life doesn't count for anything?
Spend a few (or several) hours (or days) watching court testimony. Stop listening or reading the crap that is in the news about the trial. Crap is exactly what it is.
Goodgrief, last week I went looking for a map of the community online to see if there really was only 3 or 4 streets for the whole thing. I found a map on Headline News Channel's website (the cable news channel carrying the entire trial beginning to end), Just out of curiosity I skimmed through some of the information below the map and right away I found something I knew to be false- and at that time I had watched probably not even 2 hours of testimony!
It's ridiculous. Don't waste time on the news, because most likely it's BS they're shoveling.
GD: QUOTE Consider me odd if I do not tow the, "OMG, that man had a gun and killed someone, therefore he is automatically guilty!"
I'm not one of those people either.
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2013,7:14 am |
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So what's it gonna be,
Guilty of 2nd degree murder?
Guilty of manslaughter?
Acquittal ?
Hung jury?
If real justice is served it'll be acquittal, prosecution has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
More than likely it'll be manslaughter, a more socially correct verdict.
Mob rules I guess.
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2013,10:42 am |
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313.9 million people in The United States; and we're supposed to be fixated on this guy?
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Posted on: Jul. 13 2013,1:05 pm |
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This is why people slow way down at an auto accident.
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2013,1:44 am |
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Wow, justice is served, not guilty.
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