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hoosier 
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Posted on: Oct. 26 2004,6:47 am |
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LMAO @ Repdan, good thing to, cause we both need a good woman to keep us out of trouble. 
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The power of accurate obsvervation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
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The devil begins with froth on the lips of an angel entering into battle for a holy and just cause. Grigory Pomerants
We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire. Garet Garrett
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,11:42 am |
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I know that Senator Sparks took some heat for voting in support of a morning dove season but I don't believe there were any letters to the editor coming down on you for your vote for this bill. Just so the people know how you voted on the Morning Dove hunting season on its finial passage here is the bill and your vote!
CONCURRENCE AND REPASSAGE
Hoppe moved that the House concur in the Senate amendments to H. F. No. 2368 and that the bill be repassed as amended by the Senate. The motion prevailed.
H. F. No. 2368, A bill for an act relating to game and fish; modifying hunting provisions and fees; modifying restriction on importation of cervidae carcasses; modifying restrictions on the transport of game birds; clarifying validity of firearms safety certificates issued to youth; modifying turtle license requirements; modifying waterfowl refuge provisions; providing for suspension of game and fish license and permit privileges under certain conditions; modifying shooting hours for migratory game birds; authorizing a season on mourning doves; prohibiting taking albino deer; modifying certain hearing provisions; modifying certain tagging requirements; modifying fish house provisions; providing for a live bait retailers license; providing for trapping by certain nonresidents; modifying certain game license provisions; requiring public education efforts regarding lead tackle; authorizing grants; authorizing a special permit for use of a scope when hunting with a muzzleloader; providing for a quality deer management pilot zone; requiring reports; providing criminal penalties; amending Minnesota Statutes 2002, sections 97A.015, subdivision 24; 97A.085, subdivisions 2, 3, 4; 97A.095, subdivisions 1, 2, 4; 97A.420, subdivision 4; 97A.421, by adding a subdivision; 97A.435, subdivision 4, by adding a subdivision; 97A.475, subdivision 20, by adding a subdivision; 97A.545, subdivision 5; 97B.015, subdivision 5; 97B.031, by adding a subdivision; 97B.075; 97B.301, subdivisions 6, 7; 97B.601, subdivision 3, by adding a subdivision; 97B.721; 97B.901; 97C.355, subdivision 7; 97C.605, subdivision 2; Minnesota Statutes 2003 Supplement, sections 97A.475, subdivisions 2, 3; 97A.505, subdivision 8; 97B.311; 97C.605, subdivision 2c; proposing coding for new law in Minnesota Statutes, chapter 97C; repealing Minnesota Statutes 2002, section 97B.731, subdivision 2.
The bill was read for the third time, as amended by the Senate, and placed upon its repassage
Those who voted in the affirmative were:
Abeler Adolphson Anderson, B. Anderson, I. Anderson, J.
Atkins Beard Blaine Borrell Boudreau
Bradley Brod Buesgens Cornish Cox
Davids DeLaForest Demmer Dempsey Dill
Dorman Dorn Eastlund Eken Erickson
Finstad Fuller Gerlach Gunther Haas
Hackbarth Heidgerken Hoppe Howes Jacobson
Jaros Johnson, J. Juhnke Klinzing Knoblach
Koenen Kohls Kuisle Lanning Larson
Lieder Lindgren Lindner Lipman Magnus
Mahoney Marquart McNamara Meslow Nelson, M.
Nelson, P. Newman Nornes Olsen, S. Olson, M.
Opatz Osterman Otremba Otto Ozment
Paulsen Pelowski Penas Peterson Powell
Rukavina Ruth Samuelson Seifert Sertich
Severson Simpson Slawik Smith Soderstrom
Solberg Stang Strachan Sviggum Swenson
Urdahl Vandeveer Walz Wardlow Wasiluk
Westerberg Westrom Zellers
Those who voted in the negative were:
Abrams Bernardy Biernat Carlson Clark
Davnie Ellison Entenza Erhardt Goodwin
Greiling Hausman Hilstrom Hilty Holberg
Hornstein Huntley Johnson, S. Kahn Kelliher
Krinkie Latz Lenczewski Lesch Mariani
Mullery Murphy Nelson, C. Paymar Pugh
Rhodes Seagren Sieben Sykora Thao
Thissen Wagenius Walker Wilkin
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repdan
justdan
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,1:17 pm |
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There were at least 2 letters. Yup, I support hunting and fishing. Only 31 no votes and a quick glance at the list looks like except for one Duluth and one Rocherster vote they no votes were metro area.
Any word yet Maxx on what the correct vote was on the 2003 Tax Bill?
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Liberal
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,1:20 pm |
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I must have missed something in that debate, but, what's wrong with killing a dove?
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,2:09 pm |
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Any figures yet on how much the tax free zones will cost the property owners here over the next twelve years yet repdan
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repdan
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,2:14 pm |
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Not sure, it is the number one game bird in the country, 43 other states allow the hunt, Wisconsin added it last year. There is lots of emotions thinking we are killing the bird of peace (which is the turtle dove and not the mouning dove) and heard about the small amount of meat (however using this standard we would not allow pan fishing either). If I recall, every major hunting group supported it and these are the folks who pump tons of money into our economy and habitat.
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repdan
justdan
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,2:15 pm |
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It will cost the tax payers no more of less than a tif district which is already in current law. A plant built in Clear Lake pays no property taxes in Minnesota.
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Truth
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,3:36 pm |
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Blah Blah Blah.
Just ignore him.
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,3:36 pm |
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And a plant built in Albert Lea with this program will pay no taxes in Minnesota either. You say for the most part that you are tiring to grow new business with this program here. Is there anything in the law that says that after their twelve years are up that they have to stay in Minnesota? Who says they will not move to Clear Lake.What will the cost be on the services here. Can we afford to subsidize all of these companies? Are we looking at another billion dollar deficit again?
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repdan
justdan
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,8:40 pm |
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No, they can move after 12 years but it's hard to take a plant with them. So, given that I think we all prefer that we did not need a JOBZ program or for that matter TIF, what are your ideas? Just keep losing our manufactoring base? Our rate of loss and net loss of manufactoring jobs had been 2 time greater than that in Iowa. If we loose all of the tax payers who work in and operate the plants, who is it that is going to pay for our programs?
Yes, by the time we increase K12 and our nursing homes (which includes those with develpmental disabilities) we could be looking at a billion dollar deficit. I don't know of anyway to recover with out creating jobs, but if you have another solution, please share it with me.
FYI, unless I have missed what Mr. Kaphers is saying, he suppots JOBZ as does Keith Porter but he has some concerns with how the program is being applied locally.
So, now can you tell me what the correct vote on the 2003 tax bill was? I am confused since Jeff Anderson got a hit piece from the State DFL for voting no and Gregg Davids got attacked for voting yes. And yesterday, people we supposed to say no to my extreame agenda, good schools, roads, and reasonable taxation, sure sounds extreame.
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carpe ductem.....remember we're all in this together..I'm pull'n for you.
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