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The Game
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2004,4:30 pm |
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Your Take? Especially in light of the Mary Cheney issue
TRANSGENDER CANDIDATE SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Robert Haaland could make history if he is elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors next Tuesday. He was born a she. Haaland would be the nation's first transgender elected official. The 40-year-old Haaland was born and raised a woman in Austin, Minnesota. He declared himself a lesbian at age 20 and began to identify as a man after college and law school. Haaland -- a Democrat --is considered a front-runner in the race to represent the city's Haight Ashbury district.
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p8ntball_junky
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2004,11:33 pm |
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I would be amazed. If it were me, I wouldn't vote for him just because of that fact that I think it's wrong to change your sex and that would be the only reason. But, if he wins it, more power to em ya know. I guess anyone can be elected into office in Cali.
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DrBombay
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Posted on: Oct. 26 2004,12:12 am |
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Ok, I have perhaps a dumb question. I get so confused with the trans-sex lingo. Does transgender mean that she went through with the surgery and is officially a he? Or as the story states she just identifies herself as a himself?
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Post Number: 4
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Truth
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,3:43 pm |
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No amont of surgery can change your sex. You see, the sex of a complex organism is determined by the presence of sex glands. The outward appearance of the physical body, while determined during development in the womb by the hormonal output of the sex glands, is simply that; the physical result of the influence of the sex glands on the resulting sex organs.
You can change the outward appearance of the physical body to "portray" the opposite sex of the patient however, you can not surgically create a female from a male or a male from a female.
Those who under go "sex change" procedures quite simply no longer resemble their actual sex and become a nonfunctioning image of their perceived gender.
-------------- The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy. Nietzsche
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,3:52 pm |
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Oh shut up. If nobodies business but her own. What does that possibly have to do with his politics? With little minds back home, I can see why she left.
-------------- ~I love trolling n00bs and pwning assholes~
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Truth
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,4:03 pm |
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Paul you posses horrifically truncated insight.
Those who are so motivated as to change their perceived gender should be allowed the same opportunity to hold office as any other person. However, I for one will watch their activities and progress with more than average suspicion.
-------------- The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy. Nietzsche
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,4:06 pm |
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Why?
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Truth
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,4:16 pm |
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Why? Why what? Why you are shortsighted?
The answer to that question would require in depth study of your childhood and present self-limiting behaviors.
-------------- The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy. Nietzsche
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2004,5:54 pm |
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Why would you have to, "watch their activities and progress with more than average suspicion." ?
-------------- ~I love trolling n00bs and pwning assholes~
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Truth
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Posted on: Oct. 29 2004,2:37 pm |
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Because the act of receiving a "sex change" procedure lies so far outside the limits of mainstream society that it may call into question how well they could actually represent their constituency.
-------------- The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy. Nietzsche
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