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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,7:52 am |
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Jim did you check into the statements you passed along or did you investigate them to be sure they weren't inaccurate.
You should have.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,9:22 am |
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| Quote | Jim did you check into the statements you passed along or did you investigate them to be sure they weren't inaccurate.
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You either need to take a course in reading comprehension, or get someone to read the posts to you. For the last time--as a moderator in this Forum, we have people pass information on all the time--tips, requests to investigate, etc. This was one of them. If you check my post on the subject, it will be apparent that I passed along a readers concern. I asked the readers for additional information and verification. | Quote | | This needs to be checked out--anybody have first-hand knowledge? Dan Belshan, Ron Gabrielson (we know you read this ), or anybody else from the County--let us know if this is true. |
Belshan responded with what he knew. Nobody else responded with personal knowledge of any of the other allegations made by the LEC employee. There WAS a noise issue, as stated by the Trib article referenced in the link. That's where the whole thing was left for 6 months--until "Truth" started reading back posts.
"Truth" was wrong when he said I used the word "Bullpen"--even suggesting that anyone that would use the word was not to be believed.
"Truth" was wrong when he suggested that I believed the temporary wiring in the 1880s building was evidence that the building could be wired for telephones--then suggested that perhaps those things might be carried over into my professional life--talk about unfounded allegations! It was DESKTOP MEDIA that said there is no problem wiring the building.
"Truth" has been wrong and backpedalled on every one of his allegations, even resorting to the "things are different in IOWA" defense. 
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,9:25 am |
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| Quote | | Was this LEC person an office lady or an actual cop, Jim? |
Daisy--as stated in an earlier post, the identity was double-blind--they didn't want to be exposed--so I don't know.
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Daisy Duke
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,12:26 pm |
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WOW you make me laugh so freakin hard.... get off the nose candy you ffff... crack head!! Again I must some how touch another nerve there minnow! Calm down...nothing like calling the kettle black 
Here are my two sentances:
Minnow you are an amazing bulls**ter keep telling yourself that stuff and I guarantee you will NOT go far.
I have a real job, and no, smuggling drugs in to small town USA Albert Lea is not a real job by the way tadpole... cause that is the ONLY way you are making as much as you falsely claim. ;) 
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Naughty, Naughty Kool-Aid............comedian Dane Cook!!
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Daisy Duke
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Posted on: Mar. 26 2004,12:30 pm |
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Jim--sorry for making the drug comment about you. Was not appropriate!!!
The stuff that truth has been saying I think is quite a bit more credible that your resources. You don't need to take such offense to truth but maybe to your resource for being quite confused!!! Or just not necessarily having all the facts in place
I really don't think that truth is mad at you just stop spreading useless info cause this community is already confused enough as is. Just an opinion.
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The supreme reality of our time is the extreme vulnerability of our planet.......JFK
Naughty, Naughty Kool-Aid............comedian Dane Cook!!
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minnow
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2004,2:12 pm |
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It appears you've been into your kids meth precursors again. Leave then meth manufacturing to your kids ...aiight? You'll just end up burning down the trailer... 
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Truth
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2004,4:39 pm |
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It doesn't matter who your contact was or how you obtained the information.
Fact is the information was totally false. I apologize to you Jim, for jumping you as directly relaying false information, however, I am not back pedaling, quite the opposite. I stand by all of my statements. I know what happened at the LEC, and with that knowledge I find what you posted from your contact ridiculously funny; because it is so damn wrong.
If you want to know more ask me, I will tell you exactly what I know, TRUTH!
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2004,5:10 pm |
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Back to Deb the Editor. Suffice it to say I am disgusted about today's softball Editor's posting in the Sunday Tribune. What do you think?
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minnow
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2004,5:42 pm |
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Boy, for someone who calls himself truth, you sure tell a lot of lies. I bet's become easy for you to sit in a court of law, in front of a judge and spin your little tales when you have to testify...And you know what I'm saying don't you Officer Truthless?
I'm not fooled. To me, you're nothing but a spoiled hall monitor who likes wiping his arse with folks civil rights
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2004,6:02 pm |
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| Quote | It doesn't matter who your contact was or how you obtained the information.
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As moderators of this Forum, and someone that frequently attends County meetings, we are often approached with tips, alerts, and "you should look into ......." items. This communication came from someone within the LEC, someone in a position to know--and therefore was credible. The complaintant made mention of the noise issue--which WAS TRUE--as verified by the Tribune article. The complaintant made mention of LEC anger that Gabrielson had moved HIS office out of the building--leaving the rest behind--ALSO TRUE.
Given that these items were true--wouldn't it be logical to follow up on the assertion that the West Side Clinic building had been offered as a temporary office? Look at the original post, below--I ASKED FOR VERIFICATION--IF ANYONE HAD FURTHER INFORMATION.| Quote | From the Tribune Forum--an article appeared in the Tribune detailing the noise of construction, and its effect on the operation of the emergency dispatch center.
One of my "contacts" at the LEC says that the noise is so bad that telephone and radio contacts are nearly impossible at times, with frequent requests to "repeat"--my contact says there is a safety of life issue here. My contact (I won't use gender, for fear of reprisals against the person) says that the West Side Clinic was offerred for a dollar in rent--telephone lines in place, wired for internet, plenty of parking for the police and Sheriff departments (a sore spot for both departments), plenty of public parking, and a quiet and dust-free work environment. A similar offer was reportedly made for the use of Ramsey School.
My contact was angry because these proposals never even made it to the County Board level--they were summarily rejected by County Administrator Gabrielson! According to my contact, there is much resentment around the LEC because Gabrielson moved HIS office out for the construction, but the LEC personnel are expected to stay in the noise and the dust, with minimal parking.
A check of those who have attendeded County Board meetings said this had never been brought before the Board. I found no reference to it in a check of County Board meetings minutes--though this may have been discussed in 2002. If my contact is RIGHT, WHY WERE THESE OPTIONS NOT BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD--and DID Gabrielson "short stop" the proposal?
Interesting sidelight #2--the "bull pen" for LEC officers is in the old Commissioners meeting room. My contact says that phones and internet have been installed there. WASN'T PART OF THE RATIONALE FOR REMOVING THE 54 BUILDING THAT IT COULDN'T BE WIRED FOR PHONES AND INTERNET? (a statement that Desktop Media, a company that SPECIALIZES in installing internet in older buildings, said was catagorically false)
This needs to be checked out--anybody have first-hand knowledge? Dan Belshan, Ron Gabrielson (we know you read this ), or anybody else from the County--let us know if this is true. (and we will report it to the Tribune! ) |
Did I check it out? Yes. I knew about the noise in the LEC first-hand. On the subject of the West Side Clinic, note that I checked with those who had attended County Board meetings. I also checked the 2002 minutes. I asked for input from Belshan (he responded), and Gabrielson (he didn't). I also asked if there was anyone with first-hand information. I spent a couple of hours on the item before it was even posted--something most posters wouldn't do. When there was no corroboration on the West Side Clinic offer, the matter was dropped.
Read the post again, and point out anything I said was untrue. I fail to see how you can be put out for my passing along the allegations of a County employee, most of which turned out to be true--the West Side Clinic without verification. I feel I went the "extra mile" for verification--a LEC employee (most people would agree that they are usually a credible source), I checked with others who HAD attended meetings, I went through all of the 2002 records to see if the Clinic offer had been brought up, and reported my findings as negative. I asked for verification, and when none was forthcoming from the readers of the old Forum, let it drop as not being able to be proved. I think I went far beyond anything expected of a Forum poster in following up on the tip before posting.
I'm curious of what you expect from posters on this Forum? This Forum is akin to a bunch of people that meet regularly for coffee and discussion. It is not a newspaper--though it HAS exposed more stories than some newspapers--PRECISELY BECAUSE NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS. The power of the Forum lies in being able to discuss ideas and observations--and you never know when one observation--one bit of information--will fit into the puzzle and complete a connection on a news story.
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