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jimhanson 
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,6:47 pm |
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Truth--| Quote | | Let us agree you don't know enough about logistics as it pertains to this topic Jim. Fair enough. Thank you. Manage the airport and we'll take care of the rest. |
Is there something in the Mar. 29 post that OFFENDS you? If so, be specific. If you are confused, have someone explain sarcasm or self-deprecating humor to you.
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,7:02 pm |
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Hehe... 
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2004,7:05 pm |
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I'm only confused about how you are able to fly aircraft when you can't even comprehend how logistics and location can affect how the LEC functions.
Do you fall down a lot?
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| Post Number: 74
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2004,7:05 pm |
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BTW if you don't want me to use that signature line I won't.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2004,8:29 pm |
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By all means, feel free to use the signature line. How is it modified from the original? It pretty much sums up my feelings about media distortion of the news.
Still waiting for an anwer to my question. | Quote | | Is there something in the Mar. 29 post that OFFENDS you? If so, be specific. If you are confused, have someone explain sarcasm or self-deprecating humor to you. |
To save you the trouble of looking it up, here is the post again.| Quote | LOL! Somebody on the Trib. forum mentioned running for office--I'm running FROM office! The first thing I'd have to do if I ran for office is to abolish my job! 
Actually, I said I'd put something down in writing--do something SO REPREHENSIBLE THAT IT WOULD PRECLUDE MY ATTAINING OFFICE--BUT WITH THE CURRENT CROP OF POLITICIANS, I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING THAT MEETS THAT LOW STANDARD! |
Enlighten us, how DOES "logistics and location" affect how the LEC operates?
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2004,9:18 pm |
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Simple example.
When the printer gremlin is running crazy it is very common for an officer to have to walk to the communications room to obtain printed records. If the dispatchers were moved that could mean driving to the other side of town (if you ment moving them to the west clinic-was I mistaken-I thought you had suggested that was a good idea) to pick up a simple printout.
There are good reasons that many police departments, sheriff's offices and jails are located in the same building. Have you tried calling the new Steele-Rice County dispatch and asked for a particular person or department. It's like calling Srint Customer Solutions for help. Half the time you go around in a circle and never speak to the right department let alone the correct person. Law Enforcement Center.
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2004,9:22 pm |
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P.S. I am fully aware of what sarcasm and self-deprication are. But hey thanks for the help.
See there's a good example of sarcasm. 
However, I don't depreciate myself, even in jest.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2004,9:45 pm |
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From Truth| Quote | | Just plopping officers all over the city would be a disaster. |
Since I didn't get an answer last time, I'll try the exchange again.
| Quote | Are you saying that with all of the empty buildings available in the area, ONE LOCATION couldn't have been found to house them? Armory? West Side Clinic? Lea Center? Vault? The rest of the High School? The round school?
As it is, we have the Administrator in the old school, offices in the old Armory, Commissioners in City Hall, Engineer in the County Garage, and officers in "temporary" offices in the basement of the 1880s building (that the preservationists want so badly to keep, and which has an acknowledged Radon problem). THAT seems more like "plopping officers all over the city" than any scenario I could come up with. |
Nobody was advocating "plopping officers all over town"--just put all the offices affected (LEC or Non) in one of the many empty buildings in town.
I can see no reason that the dispatch center and the police/sheriff offices could NOT be co-located. If for some reason they could not, I've got to believe that with internet connections, dedicated phone lines, or fax machines, you could solve your communications problem and get your piece of paper from one room to the next--after all, BUSINESS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES do it all over the country, and all over the world.
From your previous post--| Quote | | However, I don't depreciate myself, even in jest. |
the word is self-deprecating not depreciating. You should try making fun of yourself sometime--self-effacing humor is fun--IF YOU HAVE THE SELF-ESTEEM TO DEAL WITH IT.
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,3:47 am |
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I know Jim.
read:
Deprecate: disparage, belittle; to express disapproval of
Depreciate: to lose value, or decline.
You refered to deleting your job if you became a leader in the city's government; an act that would require you to devalue your current position. When concidering the Latin origins of the two words you will find that one relates to the devaluation of price and the other is to express disapproval. Hence their uses in modern English, one as a verb (depreciate) and the other as a transitive verb (deprecate).
While not the same word both are an expression of devaluation. I would contend that the word price could be a synonym for the word worth. In saying that, I draw a strong sense of similarity in the meaning of the two words, thus the connection through the synonym, decry, a Frech word used to express a lowered opinion, or the disparage of a person or thing; a depreciation through indirect means.
All of these words are interconnected in modern English; as I think you can now see. I did not intend to use the word depreciate as though it was a form of the word deprecate. I only used it as a word of similar meaning to keep my language resplendent.
Did you want to talk about language or were you just being contrite?
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,10:02 am |
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A small, but important item: | Quote | | You refered to deleting your job if you became a leader in the city's government |
The thread was about COUNTY government--I make it a point to never comment about City business--except the library.
No, I don't want to get into splitting hairs--while both words have to do with the dimunition of values, the word depreciate is rarely used in talking about oneself because one would have to assign a value to the commodity (oneself) in order to depreciate that value--and that would make self-deprecating humor pointless.
I'd rather talk about the other issue--this is the third time I've asked you to elaborate on why County offices--including the LEC and Law Enforcement offices--could not be located in one of the many vacant buildings in town during the construction period. Here is my question--for the third time: | Quote | | I can see no reason that the dispatch center and the police/sheriff offices could NOT be co-located. If for some reason they could not, I've got to believe that with internet connections, dedicated phone lines, or fax machines, you could solve your communications problem and get your piece of paper from one room to the next--after all, BUSINESS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES do it all over the country, and all over the world. |
Apparently, the "cop shop" offices CAN be located away from the dispatch center--after all, they DID end up locating them in the basement of the old courthouse--literally putting them in the old basement--less than optimum facilities (but they DID give them detectors for the Radon gas! 
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