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Post Number: 71
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Glad I Left
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,9:05 am |
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All these candidates parties seem to find a way to organize people to drive the "elderly and disenfranchised" to the polls on election day. Maybe they could set up a way in the months prior, to have the "elderly and disenfranchised" get their free ID. Just a thought.
-------------- After we screw up health care reform, let's take on the initiative of unscrewing the education system (gov't education) Tacitus: (c. 56 AD-c. 117) "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates."
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Post Number: 72
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,9:36 am |
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What is it with you guys and this free thing, nothing is free, it will cost big dollars to initiate and maintain such a program. This is more about disenfranchising voters than anything else!
-------------- History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors. ~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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Post Number: 73
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,9:53 am |
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They could just take their picture when they cross the border.
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Post Number: 74
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Post Number: 75
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,11:17 am |
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Bureaucracy never comes on the cheap, this will amount to a new Government agency even if it’s a subsector of another division.
No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! ~Ronald Reagan
-------------- History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors. ~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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Post Number: 76
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,12:59 pm |
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Get out the vote campaigns hardly ever endorse new litmus tests, poll taxes, or voter ID initiatives. They'd much rather get our voter turnout numbers UP, while Republicans are fighting in the opposite direction.
(Grinning_Dragon @ Aug. 15 2013,6:48 pm)
QUOTE Yes, only a drivers license is the ONLY valid form of an ID. Driver's license is brought up because it's the most likely ID to pass the requirements Republicans want to use. They've restricted nearly all others that people without a license use. Many states have said student ID's from state college or university won't cut it.
A Passport or a concealed carry permit in some states will do though, so if the poor and/or old person is a world traveler who's packing heat, they'll be good to go on election day. Santorini: QUOTE How do the disenfranchised get healthcare treatment? Typically our residents are assessed every six months; meaning a rep. (nurse & social worker) come to them... as I said before, would be an ideal time to snap photo for a pic ID...the reps already have all pertinent proof of ID info anyway! Then...mail the ID...easy enough! The rest of us are talking about the real voter laws. There was no door to door visit by a nurse or anything else you guys want to dream up.
They said we had to pass that Voter ID Amendment before Republicans would let us know how they were going to iron out the details. Whether it would be a funded mandate or the more likely unfunded one that the precincts locals would have to deal with. In other words, the Nancy Pelosi "We have to pass it to see what's in it" thing doesn't bother Republicans as long as it limits voter turnout.
Here are the things we KNOW. It WOULD limit voter turnout. Why doesn't that bother the conservatives?
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Post Number: 77
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Santorini
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,8:56 pm |
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Irish eyes, Real voter laws! Wow...real voter laws! Ya mean ' real' voter laws that like require voters to like show a photo ID to like vote..far out
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Post Number: 78
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Santorini
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,9:03 pm |
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Irish eyes, You KNOW it (photo ID) would limit voter turnout.
Limit it to what? Limit it to eligible voters
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Post Number: 79
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Santorini
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2013,9:07 pm |
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Irish eyes, Pass the voter ID amendment before you know what's actually in it... Sucks doesn't it
-------------- "Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turned out." Jack Buck
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Post Number: 80
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Glad I Left
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Posted on: Aug. 17 2013,9:20 am |
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I find it odd that most of the groups against voter ID claim it will be a bureaucracy nightmare, but yet they are in favor of obamacare which might be the biggest bureaucratic boondoggle in the history of boondoggles. Or they complain about the regulations, then on the other hand claim there are not enough regulations in the rest of the world (i.e. wall street, etc...) Then we have those that bring up the relatively small number of convicted election felonies, and saying that we don't need to correct something that isn't a problem. That is like saying because I haven't been robbed I don't need to lock my doors. It's being proactive, if you see a potential problem, you correct the problem.
-------------- After we screw up health care reform, let's take on the initiative of unscrewing the education system (gov't education) Tacitus: (c. 56 AD-c. 117) "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates."
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