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Post Number: 41
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Moparman
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,7:54 am |
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When union jobs with union wages were plentiful Detroit was the 4th largest city in the country thriving and prospering. Folks could actually afford the cars they made, they spent their money locally supporting hundreds of businesses and thousands of jobs. As the war the middle class intensified Detroit didn't strand a chance.
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Post Number: 42
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,9:03 am |
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As a few on this site are so fond of pointing out, I'm just a truck driver yet I can afford to buy a new car every few years, a nice house, vacation property etc and I did it without belonging to any damned union.
In Detroit, along with several other cities to come, the elected officials were weak and the unions were greedy and they're now getting their come-uppens. The hilarious thing is the unions suing saying the city cannot file bankruptcy. Where's the city going to get the money from?
-------------- Remember boys and girls,
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Or a “Wayne”
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Post Number: 43
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,10:49 am |
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Expensive government regulations and taxes destroyed Detroit. It simply became cheaper to make cars elsewhere. Eventually, "elsewhere" meant overseas.
Semiconductor giant Intel says it costs $1,000,000,000 less to start a chip factory overseas than it does in the U.S.
-------------- Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
- Kurt Vonnegut
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Post Number: 44
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,11:04 am |
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^love canal & slave wages = unregulated corporations
-------------- History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors. ~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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Post Number: 45
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twingroves
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,11:30 am |
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the unions and the illegals are the ones that wrecked this country
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Post Number: 46
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Post Number: 47
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,12:37 pm |
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I had to look that up, learn something new today.
Also describes Democrat, Repunlican= DeRp, fitting.
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Post Number: 48
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Post Number: 49
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,3:34 pm |
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Arrogant is when a large city in in bankruptcy and all the unions are concerned with is "where's my pension?"
Cities across the nation have been on a downward spiral for years. Minneapolis and St. Paul, Mankato and Albert Lea are not immune from this. City leader have been throwing the taxpayer under the bus in the form of union pensions. I'm not saying the each city's problems lie completely in the cost of retirement plans, bu tthey are a major contributor. Union pensions were one of the bigger reasons why Detroit went under in 2008. Now instread of just the auto industry, it's the whole darn town. The state of California is on the brink of collapse because of pensions. They say Los Angeles may be only two to three years away.
Arrogant union leaders. I guess it's been happening for quite a long time.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2013,3:51 pm |
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(MADDOG @ Jul. 24 2013,3:34 pm)
QUOTE Arrogant is when a large city in in bankruptcy and all the unions are concerned with is "where's my pension?" Cities across the nation have been on a downward spiral for years. Minneapolis and St. Paul, Mankato and Albert Lea are not immune from this. City leader have been throwing the taxpayer under the bus in the form of union pensions. I'm not saying the each city's problems lie completely in the cost of retirement plans, bu tthey are a major contributor. Union pensions were one of the bigger reasons why Detroit went under in 2008. Now instread of just the auto industry, it's the whole darn town. The state of California is on the brink of collapse because of pensions. They say Los Angeles may be only two to three years away. Arrogant union leaders. I guess it's been happening for quite a long time. That's a specious argument, at best...
Devalue the dollar steadily for a hundred years, and what do you expect? Those pigeons have to come home to roost, sooner or later. Factor in the unabated offshoring of jobs, and you start to get to the real meat and potatoes of the problem.
This country consumes more than it produces now. I don't know how much more obviously unsustainable this can be.
-------------- Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
- Kurt Vonnegut
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