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Posted on: Jul. 26 2013,8:10 pm |
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I think if you go back to the late 60's and early 70's you will realize that we had a powerful rocket with no protection from a crash. They were fast, powerful, and light as a feather. How many of these muscle cars are left? Not very many. Most were wrapped around a pole or just disintegrated. Look at the crash records of cars today. Sometimes we do need protection from ourselves. Also, there million dollar plus homes boarded up in Michigan, union workers?
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Posted on: Jul. 27 2013,6:52 am |
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I lived through the 60's and the 70's just fine. I don't want any help or hinderance from the gov other than too guard our borders from invading masses.
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Posted on: Jul. 27 2013,11:23 am |
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(grassman @ Jul. 26 2013,8:10 pm)
QUOTE I think if you go back to the late 60's and early 70's you will realize that we had a powerful rocket with no protection from a crash. They were fast, powerful, and light as a feather.
Light as a feather? I learned to drive in a '67 Olds 98 coupe. That was no lightweight. My first car was a '72 Plymouth Fury. Aside from Imperials, that was the heaviest body style Chrysler made.
The real dangerous rides happened onto the scene in the late 70's/early 80's , with the Dodge Omni, the Chevy Chevette, Ford Pinto, AMC Gremlin, Ford Maverick, and Honda's first Civics.
In my opinion, it's not about the equipment. It's that driving skills have gone down over the years.
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Posted on: Jul. 27 2013,5:25 pm |
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To most driver in today's world skilled driving means balancing a burger and a latte while texting at 65mph. 
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grassman
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Posted on: Jul. 28 2013,6:57 am |
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I geuss my reference was missed. I was referring to the auto industry to be made to implement some safety features into their vehicles. The Saab had built in roll cages way back in the late 60's.
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Posted on: Jul. 28 2013,7:25 am |
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all the cars are made of plastic and pop cans what do you expect when you have a crash you DIE
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Posted on: Jul. 30 2013,3:56 pm |
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(MADDOG @ Jul. 24 2013,3:34 pm)
QUOTE Arrogant is when a large city in in bankruptcy and all the unions are concerned with is "where's my pension?"
Cities across the nation have been on a downward spiral for years. Minneapolis and St. Paul, Mankato and Albert Lea are not immune from this. City leader have been throwing the taxpayer under the bus in the form of union pensions. I'm not saying the each city's problems lie completely in the cost of retirement plans, bu they are a major contributor. Union pensions were one of the bigger reasons why Detroit went under in 2008. Now instead of just the auto industry, it's the whole darn town.
QUOTE THE REAL ROOT OF DETROIT'S IMPLOSION
Detroit's city of 1.5 million becomes a city of less than half that size, with 47% of its remaining residents functionally illiterate, a number associated with many Third World countries.
A city where it takes an hour for the cops to show up. Where 1/3 of ambulances are inoperable. Corruption. Blight. A death spiral. A canary in the coal mine. A cautionary tale.
While many factors where at play in Detroit, one cause, above all others, led to this calamity.
It wasn't race relations.
It wasn't corruption.
It wasn't the auto industry getting eaten alive by legacy costs (getting warmer).
It wasn't out of control government spending (starting to sweat).
It wasn't even unsustainable pensions (getting way hot).
The root cause of Detroit's problems boils down to the public policy decision made in the 1960s and 1970s to allow public employees to form unions and collectively bargain for pay and other benefits.
It should come as no surprise that public unions are bankrupting cities, counties, states and the federal government with unsustainable pension costs.
What's worse, Minneapolis and St. Paul, Mankato and Albert Lea are not immune from this. City leaders have been throwing the taxpayer under the bus in the form of union pensions.
QUOTE Don't think that Detroit is the only jurisdiction with un-funded pension liabilities. Here in Minnesota, not a single public employee union is fully funded. Overall, these pensions have just 75 cents for every dollar of pension obligation. The deficit stands at nearly $17 billion dollars. Moody's Investor Services estimates that the nation in the aggregate faces $2 trillion in unfunded pension obligations. Detroit, it turns out, is just the tip of the iceberg. Other municipal bankruptcies also portend this imminent fiscal calamity. But massive unfunded pension obligations and legacy health care costs for public sector retirees are merely symptomatic of the underlying malignancy. Allowing public employees to bargain with politicians for these goodies is the real problem. This is because the normal restraints and guardrails present in private sector bargaining are wholly absent in the public environment. Minnesota Watchdog
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Posted on: Jul. 31 2013,7:02 am |
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^Truth be told these pension funds are tied to an unregulated Wall Street, thanks to the Republicans and Clinton,
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