hymiebravo · Posted on Apr. 18 2012,8:35 am
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My point there is that it isn't always altruistic. A male who attempts to intervene to save a damsel in distress, quite often does so with the idea that some kind of physical reciprocity is going to come his way.
For the git 'er done crowd:
A male will step into to save a women in the hopes that he will get a peck on the cheek. To put it nicely.
Although men are kind of hardwired to be always seeking out that angle with just about everything they do.
Whether they are conscious of it or not. So it isn't something that is exclusive to a male trying to save a women who is being physically abused.
But nonetheless it occurs in those circumstances just the same.
Seems to me you're attempting to speak for all men and what they think/want/intend, ect... when really the only person you can speak for is yourself.
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Also it's more than likely not really that pertinent to a sort of extremely rare case: Such as this small-town Albert Lea supermarket incident.
But since the vague diatribe of what a hero is was so richly applauded. I see no reason why we can't expand on the overall subject as well.
Plus in the places where you see this kind of thing normally happen: Like for example in a bar. That physical reciprocity factor usually plays a major role.
Domestic abuse/violence situations normally occur in the privacy of a home and rarely occur in public.
Problems at bars are typical in their own nature due to the environment...people often fight in bars, for a lot of reasons other than just the one you're choosing to focus on.
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Need some evidence of a non altruistically motivated "hero"?'
There's a big difference between a man starting a fire to falsify himself as a hero with the intention that he will win the girl and a grandpa at Hy-Vee who intervened with the intention to help the girl because another man was intentionally harming her.
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Need some evidence of how dangerous so called domestic disputes can be?
I donated to the family of this Lake City law enforcement officer as I mentioned in another thread on here.
What makes me the most sad about this case is the "victim"broke up with and left her abuser and had moved away from him. This is exactly what everyone in U.S. Society says is the best way to STOP an abuser's abuse and violence.
What this man did was STALK HER because he decided not only did she have no right to leave him, no one else dared stand in his way to get her back...dead or alive. He believed he was entitled to harm her or anyone else who "got" in the way of what he wanted.
That's why statistics have been proven over and over again that the most dangerous time for a victim and others who want to help the victim, is when the abuser realizes their victim is planning on leaving them or has left them.
Abusive people do not tolerate any loss of control of their victim or anyone who supports them.
And...people wonder why it isn't easy for them to just walk out of a relationship with someone who they know is capable of killing them or someone else if they do!?
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That's your opinion.
Mine:
1. More sirens, more tied up resources and personnel isn't helping anyone.
2. Making yourself a human speed-bump, or possibly causing the fatality of somebodies kid isn't helping anybody either.
It sounds like you would have been happy if anyone/everyone who was witnessing and/or reporting this man beating on a woman in public...would have just ignored it as if they didn't see it...and then later if they found her dead in the Hy-Vee parking lot, you would sleep better at night because at least it was her and not anyone else.
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It doesn't matter what he was intending. It's the end result that matters, in a situation like this. IMO
And you believe the Grandpa was wrong for caring about someone other than himself and/or his grandchild even though the end result was not "bad" for either of them.
Remember boys and girls,
You seem to be intolerable this fine morning? 
