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^again,and I'm sure there'll be more times in the future,the word pathetic comes to mind when Hymen posts. :dunce:

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I'm not necessarily saying that this guy in particular wanted to be a hero.

Plus since I wasn't there: I don't know how old the "grand-kid" was. Maybe they weren't a little kid. Maybe they were 30 years old. Which would make the grandparents probably all that much less likely to be able to effectively intervene.

There are a lot of factors and variables that have to be weighed in each situation.

If you have a small child with you. Bringing them into harms way isn't a very sound idea. IMO

If the guy is 340 pounds 6' 7" and you are quite a bit shy of that. Throwing yourself in front of the car or trying to subdue him yourself, isn't a very helpful thing to do either.

Being a hero in a case like that might just be getting a usable license plate ID.

Also if you think that guys don't try to be hero's to win the affection of the opposite sex. Particularly in the case of trying to protect the so called fairer sex.

You're either naive, or not that bright, or both.

Again I'm not saying that that has anything to do with this case.



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hymiebravo · Posted on Apr. 16 2012,8:41 am

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A hero isn't a hero because they want to be, a hero is a hero because they act like a hero, no thinking of the consequences, or of the rewards. They act because someone needs them or the situation calls for it. The girl was in truoble, she needed help and the guy reacted. I'm betting he wasn't thinking about wanting to be a hero at the time.

Your thinking the guy wanted glory reveals your charecter Hymen. :dunce:



I'm not necessarily saying that this guy in particular wanted to be a hero.

Plus since I wasn't there: I don't know how old the "grand-kid" was. Maybe they weren't a little kid. Maybe they were 30 years old. Which would make the grandparents probably all that much less likely to be able to effectively intervene.

There are a lot of factors and variables that have to be weighed in each situation.

If you have a small child with you. Bringing them into harms way isn't a very sound idea. IMO

If the guy is 340 pounds 6' 7" and you are quite a bit shy of that. Throwing yourself in front of the car or trying to subdue him yourself, isn't a very helpful thing to do either.

Being a hero in a case like that might just be getting a usable license plate ID.

Also if you think that guys don't try to be hero's to win the affection of the opposite sex. Particularly in the case of trying to protect the so called fairer sex.

You're either naive, or not that bright, or both.

Again I'm not saying that that has anything to do with this case.


What you seem to be saying is that "maybe" things should/could have been done differently by everyone else who was directly impacted, involved and/or witnessed this case, IF they acted or reacted in a specific way.  

Those people who assisted in any way, shape or form to STOP the insanity of ONE PERSON deserve to be applauded, not ripped apart because it.  

Just my honest opinion!
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A hero isn't a hero because they want to be, a hero is a hero because they act like a hero, no thinking of the consequences, or of the rewards. They act because someone needs them or the situation calls for it. The girl was in truoble, she needed help and the guy reacted. I'm betting he wasn't thinking about wanting to be a hero at the time.

Your thinking the guy wanted glory reveals your charecter Hymen. :dunce:



I'm not necessarily saying that this guy in particular wanted to be a hero.

Plus since I wasn't there: I don't know how old the "grand-kid" was. Maybe they weren't a little kid. Maybe they were 30 years old. Which would make the grandparents probably all that much less likely to be able to effectively intervene.

There are a lot of factors and variables that have to be weighed in each situation.

If you have a small child with you. Bringing them into harms way isn't a very sound idea. IMO

If the guy is 340 pounds 6' 7" and you are quite a bit shy of that. Throwing yourself in front of the car or trying to subdue him yourself, isn't a very helpful thing to do either.

Being a hero in a case like that might just be getting a usable license plate ID.

Also if you think that guys don't try to be hero's to win the affection of the opposite sex. Particularly in the case of trying to protect the so called fairer sex.

You're either naive, or not that bright, or both.

Again I'm not saying that that has anything to do with this case.


What you seem to be saying is that "maybe" things should/could have been done differently by everyone else who was directly impacted, involved and/or witnessed this case, IF they acted or reacted in a specific way.  

Those people who assisted in any way, shape or form to STOP the insanity of ONE PERSON deserve to be applauded, not ripped apart because it.  

Just my honest opinion!

I'm just fleshing out the fact that a domestic dispute can be a very dangerous situation.

Also there are many reasons behind why people get involved in these little civil wars.

Many times people wind up dead as a result of their attempted intervention.

You better really be thinking about what you're doing before you jump into that type of fray.
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Maybe all you name callers should point out why possibly having the grandparent or the grand-kid die, in a situation like this, is a good idea.

The grandparents responsibility is to make sure their grand-kids are safe.

That's how they become a hero in a situation like this.

Not dragging them into a battlefield.

By doing that, you're just creating the potential for more chaos and sorrow. IMO
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^did we get our feelings hurt??? :(

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I think it's pretty safe to say you couldn't count on Hymie to help out in any kind of situation that would be uncomfortable for him. Or if he had maybe a half hour to do a pro/con list of why he should help out in a moment of extreme need.
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What I don't understand is why this guys girlfriend kept going back to this guy for more beatings. It's hard to feel sorry for her. I'm not saying what this crazy guy did was ok.

Most law enforcement officers will tell you to just call 911 and report this behavior A.S.A.P as it can be a very deadly situation for all involved.
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I'm just fleshing out the fact that a domestic dispute can be a very dangerous situation.


I agree with you...

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Also there are many reasons behind why people get involved in these little civil wars.


What are those reasons?  

I can only hope that you mean that people get involved because they truly recognize the problems of domestic violence/abuse.

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Many times people wind up dead as a result of their attempted intervention.


Unfortunately, more children who are being exposed to domestic abuse and violence in their home in the U.S. are more apt to wind up dead because they intervened in trying to protect one parent from being hurt by their other parent/ parent's significant other, than any other ADULT person or non-related child ever has to worry about if they were to "intervene" and try to stop it.  

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You better really be thinking about what you're doing before you jump into that type of fray.


People sign up every day to fight in the U.S. Armed Forces against people like this in other countries who harm their own people or want to come here and harm us.  

Do they do it just for the money or to be a hero?  Or is it possible that they might jump into that type of fray because they care about protecting the innocent from entitlement driven abusive/violent insane control freaks?

hymiebravo · Posted on Apr. 17 2012,8:29 am

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Maybe all you name callers should point out why possibly having the grandparent or the grand-kid die, in a situation like this, is a good idea.


I haven't called you any names.  

The grandparent didn't die and neither did the grand-kid, so why make this the most important issue to dwell on because it's a possibility, yet didn't happen?  

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The grandparents responsibility is to make sure their grand-kids are safe.

That's how they become a hero in a situation like this.

Not dragging them into a battlefield.

By doing that, you're just creating the potential for more chaos and sorrow. IMO


There's another side to this as far as I am concerned.  

Maybe that grandpa was thinking, "If that was my granddaughter being harmed by a man, this is what I would want another grandpa to do because I'm not there to protect her myself."  

I highly doubt this grandpa was intending to create the potential for more chaos and sorrow for anyone, including his own grandchild.  

There was only ONE person who was creating chaos and sorrow...anyone else, including this grandpa...did NOTHING WRONG by trying to STOP him.
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