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Question: OBAMACARE :: Total Votes:52
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Leave me alone, I can take care of myself. 9  [17.31%]
No, it will lead to rationing of health care. 2  [3.85%]
Why pay my neighbors health care, and he pays mine? 0  [0.00%]
The present system isn't perfect, but better than others 6  [11.54%]
Socialized medicine hasn't worked anywhere its tried 10  [19.23%]
Private insurance, AND government for those needing it 4  [7.69%]
Government coverage only for CATASTROPHIC claims. 2  [3.85%]
But...But....But....it has worked SO well in Canada 1  [1.92%]
Yeah, bring it on! 12  [23.08%]
"Obama gonna give me gas, pay my rent, be my doctor!" 6  [11.54%]
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Honestly, I haven't read a complete diatribe from "the jimmy" in months.
No WONDER you haven't learned anything! :rofl:

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The reason is because he has no problem lying or misleading with crazy links to back up his Limbaugh material. For example the link he used to show how horrible socialized health care was a link to Capitalism Magazine.
 Limbaugh material?  What does HE have to do with it? :p

Link?  I provided the link--you can read it for what you want.  How is that "lying'? :dunno:

Note that once again, libbie didn't engage on the issue--he attacks the presenter. :crazy:

Tell us libbie, how are those facts WRONG?  Do you have anything to refute them? :dunno:

World Health people are afraid that diseases can be transmitted from non-human forms to humans.  This appears to have happened to libbies--Bush Derangement Syndrome has morphed into Rush Hate Syndrome, and further to Hate Capitalism Syndrome.  Now it is morphing into "Attack anybody that questions "The One." :rofl:

The disease seems to be spread by Rabid Moonbats! :rofl:

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Someone's back on the hillbilly heroin.



Wow, I have not heard his voice in a long time, he sounds about dead.
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This one is the best today.



Obama killed spirit?

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Why not have socialized health care, we already have socialized schooling.
Christ I am ashamed of what our country is becoming..... :hairpull:

Good observation.

And Socialized Medicine will work about as well as anywhere ELSE it has been tried--a failure.

It will be a "great triumph for the Fatherland"--like socialized schooling.

It will be the "wave of the future" like Medicare.

It will be the "intergenerational compact" like that resounding success, Socialist Security.

The government wants to treat YOU like it treats its own soldiers--VA Hospitals.

The government wants to give YOU the same waiting time for medical care that Canadians have.

The government wants to give YOU the same dental plan the Brits have.

The government wants to bring YOU the same high energy costs that the Scandinavian countries have to pay for THEIR Socialist Paradise--even though those governments OWN the energy companies, they tax the consumers.

The government offers "free" health care--but will take increasing amounts of dollars from your paycheck--just like they did for Socialist Security.  When the inevitable shortfall comes, they will take more money from the General Fund--increasing your taxes.  They will increase CORPORATE taxes--causing more corporations to leave the country, and driving up the cost to consumers from those that stay.

LIBBIES--where do YOU think they will get the money to pay for this? :dunce:

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Mostly from the 20% of Americans that call themselves republican.

According to the chatter on the AM dial we're apparently going to kill the rich and use their wealth to fund socialized medicine.

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According to the chatter on the AM dial we're apparently going to kill the rich and use their wealth to fund socialized medicine.

You listen to KATE that much?

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Have someone that speaks Socialist differentiate between the phrases "Kill the Rich" and "Kill the Economy."

I don't think you were old enough to remember who said "Kill the Rich!"--but I do.

It was none other than Weather Underground members Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn! :rofl:

They are Donks, and Socialists.  They advocate "Killing the Rich"--not Limbaugh.  Since YOU are also a Donk and a far-left guy, do YOU also advocate "Killing the Rich"? :crazy:

Or are you merely a "Steal this Book" Abbie Hoffman Anarchist? :rofl:

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Yeah, everyone knows that those pesky Europeans are COMMUNIST!! accessible affordable medical care for everyone..it's so.... un-American...don't they know heathcare for profit is the American way... :sarcasm:

What's wrong with profits?   :dunno:

I would argue that nothing is wrong with it.  It is because of the possibility of profits that creates ingenuity and advances in modern medical science and technology.  Profits are a huge part of what motivates people to be creative.

Is healthcare a right or a priviledge?   :dunno:

Greed is good right Common.. the robber barons of the insurance industry are killing this country..
this is a mere tip of the iceberg,,,,,,


AMSF AMERISAFE, Inc. C. Allen Bradley Jr. 2007 961,412
AET Aetna Inc. Ronald A. Williams  2007 19,924,027
AFL Aflac Incorporated Daniel P. Amos  2008 10,783,232
ACAP American Physicians Capital, Inc. R. Kevin Clinton  2008 1,911,179
CI CIGNA Corporation H. Edward Hanway  2008 12,236,740
CNC Centene Corporation Michael F. Neidorff  2008 4,359,365
CVH Coventry Health Care, Inc. Allen F. Wise  2007 11,206,226
EIG Employers Holdings, Inc. Douglas D. Dirks  2007 1,797,323
HNT Health Net, Inc. Jay M. Gellert  2007 1,311,581
HS HealthSpring, Inc. Herbert A. Fritch  2007 745,375
HUM Humana Inc. Michael B. McCallister  2008 5,185,414
MOH Molina Healthcare, Inc. Dr. J. Mario Molina M.D. 2008 2,217,645
PFG Principal Financial Group, Inc. J. Barry Griswell 2007 10,826,687
TMK Torchmark Corporation Mark S. McAndrew  2008 4,710,916
GTS Triple-S Management Corporation Ramon M. Ruiz-Comas  2008 1,204,227
UNH UnitedHealth Group Incorporated Stephen J. Hemsley  2007 5,029,838
UNM Unum Group Thomas R. Watjen  2007 13,769,784
WCG WellCare Health Plans, Inc. Todd S. Farha 2007 5,671,050
WLP WellPoint, Inc. Angela F. Braly  2007 14,859,166
EHTH eHealth, Inc. Gary L. Lauer  2007 815,310
AMSG AmSurg Corp. Ken P. McDonald 2007 1,413,755
CYH Community Health Systems, Inc. Wayne T. Smith  2007 23,850,101
HMA Health Management Associates, Inc. Joseph V. Vumbacco 2007 1,790,218
HLS HealthSouth Corporation Jay Grinney  2007 6,830,694
LPNT LifePoint Hospitals, Inc. William F. Carpenter III 2007 4,301,748
MGLN Magellan Health Services, Inc. Steven J. Shulman 2007 7,673,945
RHB RehabCare Group, Inc. John H. Short Ph.D. 2008 2,790,162
THC Tenet Healthcare Corporation Trevor Fetter  2007 9,885,821
UHS Universal Health Services, Inc. Alan B. Miller  2007 6,912,226

Ah...ah...ah.. . You mentioned profits in the first post.  Not greed.  Two totally different things.

But I can understand in a "lib" world that the two terms are often interchangable.  

I don't like greed anymore than the next guy.   But I will stand by my statement that there is nothing wrong with profit.

By the way,  insurance companies built this country.  Who do you think bought most of the bonds that created the capital to build the infrastructure of this country.   :dunno:

But because a CEO of an insurance company makes millions while you're making thousands...they're greedy, huh?  How much are they worth?  How much are YOU worth?   :dunno:
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And tell him 'Hi' from me.  I ran into him a few weeks ago in Kwik Trip.

You bet.  I'll probably talk to him this weekend.

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But because a CEO of an insurance company makes millions while you're making thousands...they're greedy, huh?  How much are they worth?  How much are YOU worth?   :dunno:

Profits for drug makers are almost 20% compared with 6.3% for all Fortune 500 companies. Health Insurance companies profits have increased 1,084 % in five years..
Pharmaceutical company CEOs average 4.36 million a year in compensation, for health insurance companies it's 8.75 million a year..
The average premium for family health insurance is $12,000 and is expected to double by 2016 unless we do something....
One insurance company executive alone, Aetna's Ronald Williams, brings in more than $32 million a year,  justify that Common !!!

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