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Santorini 
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Posted on: May 21 2013,6:03 am |
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ May 15 2013,7:48 am)
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(grassman @ May 14 2013,10:05 pm)
QUOTE I am just laughing my ass off at all of you know it alls. Don't you get it? Nothing matters anymore as far as WE are considered. It does not matter which party gets caught doing this or doing that, we just don't matter anymore. It is all about them. They RULE.  Things are only going to get worse if we just keep letting things go. We're too complacent, it's freaking annoying. It's been happening incrementally for years. It's like the "boiling frog" analogy. I'm not saying there's some big boogey-man setting things up behind the scenes, but things definitely ARE getting worse, and they are NOT going to stop getting worse. Now the IRS has been caught harassing constitution-style groups, and the DOJ seized the Associated Press' phone records. - They must think that since us sheep didn't bleat too much over the government snooping on our phone calls/emails, it must be ok to start snooping on the major news networks.- Not that they inform us of most things we need to know anyway. Things aren't going to magically get better. I hate to think what it will be like for our kids and grandkids. Just sayin.
the AP the IRS leaks purposely orchestrated by this administration. Just check into Lois lurner, IRS.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: May 23 2013,1:55 pm |
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(Santorini @ May 21 2013,6:03 am)
QUOTE the AP the IRS leaks purposely orchestrated by this administration. Just check into Lois lurner, IRS.
Sorry, I know this is quite a long post. I apologize, I'm in a hurry.
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The head of the Internal Revenue Service’s tax-exempt organizations office, faced with allegations of improper targeting of conservative groups, told a House committee Wednesday that she has done nothing wrong but declined to answer questions, invoking her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politic...ry.html
The Internal Revenue Service, apparently determined to get out ahead of an inspector general report critical of its handling of tax exemptions for Tea Party groups, came up with a plan: Lois Lerner, the official responsible for the tax-exempt division, would publicly apologize in response to a question at the American Bar Association conference in Washington.
Details of the now-infamous planted question emerged Friday after acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller admitted the gambit under questioning from members of the House Ways and Means Committee.
http://www.usatoday.com/story...2216747
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About Benghazi:
According to Hicks, Clinton personally sent Stevens to Benghazi to open a permanent consulate by the end of the year. If true, this suggests Clinton is guilty of at the very least willful ignorance of the circumstances into which she sent Stevens. It also changes the moral obligation, if not the technical responsibility, to ensure appropriate security for what at that point was a largely CIA compound. It also calls into question whether the ARB was investigating or shifting blame for the fiasco, as The Hill reports:
According to Stevens, Secretary Clinton wanted Benghazi converted into a permanent constituent post,” Hicks testified.
“Timing for this decision [to visit the region on Sept. 11] was important. Chris needed to report before Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year, on the … political and security environment in Benghazi.”
He said Pickering appeared “surprised.”
“I did tell the Accountability Review Board that Secretary Clinton wanted the post made permanent,” Hicks testified.
“Ambassador Pickering looked surprised. He looked both ways … to the members of the board, saying, ‘Does the seventh floor [the secretary of State’s office] know about this?’ ”
The ARB appears to have ignored Hicks’s statement in its public report. Instead, the board appeared to place responsibility on Stevens.
“The Ambassador chose to travel to Benghazi that week, independent of Washington, as per standard practice,” the ARB concluded in its three pages of findings.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...hifting
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The Red Cross and Britian had pulled out of Benghazi because of security concerns, it's ridiculous that we had anyone there, and it's even more ridiculous that the main security was local Benghazi people. It doesn't make sense that we only sent two reinforcement people to help after the attack started. There wasn't even an attempt to send more help.
Worse than the AP thing is what the government is doing to James Rosen, this is kinda long, and I know this post is already long, so I apologize, but what is happening is BS, and should not be happening in America. Like I said before, things are not going to magically get better.
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Using italics for emphasis, Reyes explained how Rosen allegedly used a “covert communications plan” and quoted from an e-mail exchange between Rosen and Kim that seems to describe a secret system for passing along information.
In the exchange, Rosen used the alias “Leo” to address Kim and called himself “Alex,” an apparent reference to Alexander Butterfield, the man best known for running the secret recording system in the Nixon White House, according to the affidavit.
Rosen instructed Kim to send him coded signals on his Google account, according to a quote from his e-mail in the affidavit: “One asterisk means to contact them, or that previously suggested plans for communication are to proceed as agreed; two asterisks means the opposite.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local..._1.html
For cryingoutloud, why on earth would these two email each other this type of information? Fishy. Weird.
The focus of the Post's report yesterday is that the DOJ's surveillance of Rosen, the reporter, extended far beyond even what they did to AP reporters. The FBI tracked Rosen's movements in and out of the State Department, traced the timing of his calls, and - most amazingly - obtained a search warrant to read two days worth of his emails, as well as all of his emails with Kim. In this case, said the Post, "investigators did more than obtain telephone records of a working journalist suspected of receiving the secret material." It added that "court documents in the Kim case reveal how deeply investigators explored the private communications of a working journalist".
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Goodale, the New York Times' former general counsel, was interviewed by Democracy Now last week and said this:
AMY GOODMAN: "You say that President Obama is worse than President Nixon.
JAMES GOODALE: "Well, more precisely, I say that if in fact he goes ahead and prosecutes Julian Assange, he will pass Nixon. He's close to Nixon now. The AP example is a good example of something that Obama has done but Nixon never did. So I have him presently in second place, behind Nixon and ahead of Bush II. And he's moving up fast. . . .
"Obama has classified, I think, seven million — in one year, classified seven million documents. Everything is classified. So that would give the government the ability to control all its information on the theory that it's classified. And if anybody asks for it and gets it, they're complicit, and they're going to go to jail. So that criminalizes the process, and it means that the dissemination of information, which is inevitable, out of the classified sources of that information will be stopped.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment...inality
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MADDOG
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Posted on: May 23 2013,2:08 pm |
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What if Obama supplied arms to militants who opposed Gaddafi? What if Obama had been trying to buy them back?
This ain't over yet.
What if Ambassador Stevens was killed by weapons sold under the authority of Clinton? Now those same weapons may be heading for Syria. What if a gunrunning operation in Libya was the brainchild of Hillary?
Why would Stevens be sent to Benghazi with the danger level being that high? What if Special Ops was told to stand down because of a delicate situation of a hopeful buyback program?
This isn't likely over.
If O'bambam is continually backed into a corner, sooner or later he is going to lash out like a wild caged animal.
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Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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Posted on: May 23 2013,9:00 pm |
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I to agree with MD, none of this, all three debacles are going to be over for a long, long time.
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Posted on: May 23 2013,9:43 pm |
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One thing everyone should think about. We were the ruler of the Earth. We have been sold out by the free enterprise weapon builders. Greed took over patriotism. Our many enemies now have a whole lot of the knowledge that we have. Guess what. We have been pissing a whole lot of different countries off. What happens when you go into a bar all by yourself and kick someone in the nuts that has thirty friends. Try to make a few yourself?
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git er done!
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: May 23 2013,10:36 pm |
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MADDOG, like the buyback program we tried using to get the weapons Reagan supplied to the extremists way back when?
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Grinning Dragon, he entered Pakistan without it's consent or knowledge to kill Bin Laden. He's going after more whistle-blowers than all other presidents combined. He has the power to lock up American citizens and stripping them of their rights with no explanation needed, has already killed 4 American citizens in drone strikes, no explanation, no trial, without showing proof of guilt and wrote an EO granting himself the power to control pretty much everything whenever he sees fit.- He's not bowing to anyone, he doesn't appear to be a wuss, and he's only making himself and every future president more powerful.- As the last few presidents have been doing.
SB, bigger debacles have been forgotten.
Iran Contra
Illegal invasion of Iraq
And barely mentioned debacles
Supplying Hussein with chemical/biological weapons, leading back to Reagan years.
Supplying extremists with weapons, training and financing them, leading back to Reagan.
Intentionally killing hundreds of thousands, most likely over a million innocent people. - Why? Because the leader had/used chemical biological weapons? The stuff we knew he had because we helped him get them, the stuff we let him use while he was useful to us? Or was it because he was in league with the extremists we helped fund, train and arm? It all gets a little foggy.
Grassman: QUOTE We have been pissing a whole lot of different countries off.
You ain't akiddin.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: May 24 2013,12:03 am |
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I freakin LOVE alternative news.
This guy: David Rhodes was named President of CBS News in February 2011.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18564_162-7329695/david-rhodes/
And this guy: Ben Rhodes
Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications and Speechwriting
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/Ben%20Rhodes
Are brothers:
http://news.rice.edu/2011...bs-news
This woman: CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson, who has been out in front on the developing story about Benghazi and the administration's response, says she's "still learning new things" about the tragedy and the government's reaction.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50146665n
Is saying this:
"There's been an issue in my home and an issue with my computers,"
http://www.businessinsider.com/sharyl-...-2013-5
And then there's this:
The second Goliath is CBS News, which has grown increasingly frustrated with Attkisson's Benghazi campaign. CBS News executives see Attkisson wading dangerously close to advocacy on the issue, network sources have told POLITICO. Attkisson can't get some of her stories on the air, and is thus left feeling marginalized and underutilized. That, in part, is why Attkisson is in talks to leave CBS ahead of contract, as POLITICO reported in April.
http://www.politico.com/blogs...96.html
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Liberal
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Posted on: May 24 2013,12:44 am |
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Brothers? Well that's some big news there, sort of like your conspiracy theory where GM was going to make a killing in Minnesota with their advanced daytime running lights technology because the CEO of GM was from Mankato and so was the (Mankato)state rep that proposed it.
How'd that conspiracy theory turn out for you?
QUOTE Voters trust Clinton over GOP on Benghazi PPP's newest national poll finds that Republicans aren't getting much traction with their focus on Benghazi over the last week. Voters trust Hillary Clinton over Congressional Republicans on the issue of Benghazi by a 49/39 margin and Clinton's +8 net favorability rating at 52/44 is identical to what it was on our last national poll in late March. Meanwhile Congressional Republicans remain very unpopular with a 36/57 favorability rating. Voters think Congress should be more focused on other major issues right now rather than Benghazi. By a 56/38 margin they say passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill is more important than continuing to focus on Benghazi, and by a 52/43 spread they think passing a bill requiring background checks for all gun sales should be a higher priority. While voters overall may think Congress' focus should be elsewhere there's no doubt about how mad Republicans are about Benghazi. 41% say they consider this to be the biggest political scandal in American history to only 43% who disagree with that sentiment. Only 10% of Democrats and 20% of independents share that feeling. Republicans think by a 74/19 margin than Benghazi is a worse political scandal than Watergate, by a 74/12 margin that it's worse than Teapot Dome, and by a 70/20 margin that it's worse than Iran Contra. One interesting thing about the voters who think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history is that 39% of them don't actually know where it is. 10% think it's in Egypt, 9% in Iran, 6% in Cuba, 5% in Syria, 4% in Iraq, and 1% each in North Korea and Liberia with 4% not willing to venture a guess.At any rate what we're finding about last week's Benghazi focus so far is that Republicans couldn't be much madder about it, voters overall think Congress should be focused on other key issues, and Hillary Clinton's poll numbers aren't declining on account of it. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main...zi.html
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The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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ombama lash out like a caged animal? 