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Rosalind_Swenson 
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Posted on: May 24 2013,1:47 am |
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(Liberal @ May 24 2013,12:44 am)
QUOTE Brothers? Well that's some big news there, QUOTE Voters trust Clinton over GOP on Benghazi PPP's newest national poll finds that Republicans aren't getting much traction with their focus on Benghazi over the last week. Voters trust Hillary Clinton over Congressional Republicans on the issue of Benghazi by a 49/39 margin and Clinton's +8 net favorability rating at 52/44 is identical to what it was on our last national poll in late March. Meanwhile Congressional Republicans remain very unpopular with a 36/57 favorability rating. Voters think Congress should be more focused on other major issues right now rather than Benghazi. By a 56/38 margin they say passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill is more important than continuing to focus on Benghazi, and by a 52/43 spread they think passing a bill requiring background checks for all gun sales should be a higher priority. While voters overall may think Congress' focus should be elsewhere there's no doubt about how mad Republicans are about Benghazi. 41% say they consider this to be the biggest political scandal in American history to only 43% who disagree with that sentiment. Only 10% of Democrats and 20% of independents share that feeling. Republicans think by a 74/19 margin than Benghazi is a worse political scandal than Watergate, by a 74/12 margin that it's worse than Teapot Dome, and by a 70/20 margin that it's worse than Iran Contra. One interesting thing about the voters who think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history is that 39% of them don't actually know where it is. 10% think it's in Egypt, 9% in Iran, 6% in Cuba, 5% in Syria, 4% in Iraq, and 1% each in North Korea and Liberia with 4% not willing to venture a guess.At any rate what we're finding about last week's Benghazi focus so far is that Republicans couldn't be much madder about it, voters overall think Congress should be focused on other key issues, and Hillary Clinton's poll numbers aren't declining on account of it. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main...zi.html
ABC president ben Sherwood and Obama Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood are brother and sister.
Jay Carney is married to Claire Shipman who works for ABC. Previously worked for NBC, before that she worked for CNN.
Tom Nides, a Deputy Secretary of State for Obama, married to CNN bureau Chief, previous editor at ABC news Virginia Moseley.
Yeah, I think it's a problem having so many big administration people involved with so many big media people.
The Daytime Running Lights, yeah I was just bored and having a bit of fun with that one actually. But feel free to keep bringing that up and ignoring anything of importance.- You're good at that.
I like how you highlighted part of your Poll article. Did you check into the polling results for yourself? Funny funny stuff.- But you probably won't find the humor in it.
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53% of people who voted for Obama knew Benghazi is in Libya.
64% of people who voted for Romney knew Benghazi is in Libya.
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55% of "Very Liberal" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
43% of "Somewhat Liberal" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
55% of "Moderate" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
67% of "Somewhat Conservative" knew Benghazi is in Libya
74% of "Very Conservative" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
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49% "Democrats" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
60% "Republicans" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
68% "Independent/Other" knew Benghazi is in Libya.
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2htm...ges=yes
Most of us already realize you don't care if the government is corrupt, full of crap, and if they lie to us. Some of us do care however, and some of us are sick of the BS.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: May 24 2013,9:19 pm |
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(Grinning_Dragon @ May 23 2013,3:16 pm)
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(MADDOG @ May 23 2013,2:08 pm)
QUOTE What if Obama supplied arms to militants who opposed Gaddafi? What if Obama had been trying to buy them back?
This ain't over yet.
What if Ambassador Stevens was killed by weapons sold under the authority of Clinton? Now those same weapons may be heading for Syria. What if a gunrunning operation in Libya was the brainchild of Hillary?
Why would Stevens be sent to Benghazi with the danger level being that high? What if Special Ops was told to stand down because of a delicate situation of a hopeful buyback program?
This isn't likely over.
If O'bambam is continually backed into a corner, sooner or later he is going to lash out like a wild caged animal. Maddog. Funny would point to a gun running op in Bengazi. There have been little govt birds chirping about the very same thing you are alluding to.  ombama lash out like a caged animal? Whats he going to do, bow everybody to death? The man is a wuss and weak.
Old news, but interesting perspective from a different point leads the State Department's involvement right to a coverup.
QUOTE Recall how officials briefed on intelligence told the Wall Street Journal: “The U.S. effort in Benghazi was at its heart a CIA operation,” and the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” to conceal weapon transfers from Libya to Syria. In addition, as Aaron Klein of kleinonline.com reported, “The U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, actually served as a meeting place to coordinate aid for the rebel-led insurgencies in the Middle East, according to Middle Eastern security officials ... Among the tasks performed inside the building was collaborating with Arab countries on the recruitment of fighters—including jihadists—to target Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.” The so-called Benghazi mission or consulate as the Obama-Clinton regime described it to be was in reality a CIA outpost. The Canada Free Press reports of FOIA requests denied by the Obambina Family's secret police. It's time for Petraeus to step up and blow his whistle before he gets whacked struck by a bus crossing the street or a Vincent Foster event.
Fast forward to the State Department's denial of a weapons buy back program. QUOTE back in Obama’s America, don’t call Libya’s weapon recovery program “buyback” that then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton funded using $40 million of your tax dollars after the Obama—Clinton regime toppled Col. Muammar Gaddafi because if you do, the State Department will deny it exists. You can however refer to it as the MANPAD program—Man-Portable-Air-Defense Systems or shoulder-fired-anti-aircraft missiles that the U.S. is “helping” Libya to recover and secure among its weapon stockpiles.
Yes, we have entered the smoke and mirror stage of the absurd by playing word games with the State Department now.
Why is getting the status and inventory of Libya’s weapons recovery program so critical? Because arms from Libya have shown up in Syria. As the Wall Street Journal reported: “The U.S. effort in Benghazi was at its heart a CIA operation,” and the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” to conceal weapon transfers from Libya to Syria. Hmm, smoke and mirrors. carefully not answering direct questions.
Here's a possiblilty. If the press actually continues to pursue these issues with questions directed to Bambino during press conferences. More evidence is uncovered. Congress investigates further. More pressure is inflicted. Sooner or later those primitive instincts will kick in and he'll lash out like a wild animal. Pressured, he will throw this back at the State Department to protect himself.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: May 27 2013,2:12 am |
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It's the exact same thing as what happened in the Iran Contra hearings. It's the exact same as what happened with every hearing having to do with 9-11. Everyone in the administrations says "I don't know", "I don't recall", congress huffs and puffs, does some yelling, the administration people squirm, and the only thing that actually happens is some lower-level people take the blame.
Congress throws their hands in the air and says "Not sufficient, but FINE" washes their hands and it's done. Some of We the People complain for awhile until the rest of We the People get tired of hearing about it and they tell us "Shut up you conspiracy kook, it's over with. It was a long time ago. What does any of this matter anymore."
The next candidates point out some of the current administration flaws, and use them in their campaigns, and talk about how they'll "fix" everything.
I remember a candidate talking about getting out of Iraq, Afghanistan, getting out of countries we have no business being in. He talked about closing Guantanamo, because what Guantanamo stands for and the things going on there aren't very "American". Did he do those things? Goodgod, most of the people locked up in Gitmo didn't even do anything wrong, and that has been proven. - The government just isn't letting them out.- Mainly they are afraid they've created more terrorists. Some of these people have been locked up for 11 years for godsakes. Away from their families. Locked up and forgotten. Absolutely no trial.
That's how it goes in this country. No matter what party, no matter what the scandal. No matter what sorts of atrocities they commit.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: May 28 2013,4:02 am |
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QUOTE What about torture? If you're referring to water boarding an enemy combatant, got a problem with that? Because I don't. Especially if it means saving American lives.
QUOTE Gee. I don't know. What? I'm sure you're dying to tell us.
Set my body on fire and drag me through their streets? Tell us...what.
The point is if it's okay to violate the Geneva Convention for a foreigner, is it okay to do it to people like you and me. I don't think so.
You said it would save lives, if it would save lives to give away your rights are you willing to? Basic human rights are supposed to be for everyone, and you'll notice we haven't tortured a lot of terrorists who share our skin complexion or religion.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: May 28 2013,7:47 am |
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There were a lot of military people and historians telling Bush and others how torture does not work. Torture is best for eliciting false testimony. People will say anything to make the torture stop. Whistle blowing translator Sibel Edmonds tried telling people that other translators were even giving false translations during "interrogations". She talked to the 911 Commission but they were not allowed to use, follow up on, or publish what she told them. The 911 Commission did however request the "interrogation" tapes from the CIA. The CIA destroyed the tapes so the commission never even got to see them.
Other whistle-blowers have come out and said that the interrogations were only interested in finding links between Iraq and al-qaeda, and when they weren't getting anything they started using harsher methods.
We just have to take the CIA's word for the information they got out of people, since the tapes are gone.
As for the Geneva Convention, it seems the US government doesn't think it applies to them.
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Santorini
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Posted on: May 29 2013,7:53 pm |
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(Liberal @ May 24 2013,12:44 am)
QUOTE Brothers? Well that's some big news there, sort of like your conspiracy theory where GM was going to make a killing in Minnesota with their advanced daytime running lights technology because the CEO of GM was from Mankato and so was the (Mankato)state rep that proposed it. How'd that conspiracy theory turn out for you? QUOTE Voters trust Clinton over GOP on Benghazi PPP's newest national poll finds that Republicans aren't getting much traction with their focus on Benghazi over the last week. Voters trust Hillary Clinton over Congressional Republicans on the issue of Benghazi by a 49/39 margin and Clinton's +8 net favorability rating at 52/44 is identical to what it was on our last national poll in late March. Meanwhile Congressional Republicans remain very unpopular with a 36/57 favorability rating. Voters think Congress should be more focused on other major issues right now rather than Benghazi. By a 56/38 margin they say passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill is more important than continuing to focus on Benghazi, and by a 52/43 spread they think passing a bill requiring background checks for all gun sales should be a higher priority. While voters overall may think Congress' focus should be elsewhere there's no doubt about how mad Republicans are about Benghazi. 41% say they consider this to be the biggest political scandal in American history to only 43% who disagree with that sentiment. Only 10% of Democrats and 20% of independents share that feeling. Republicans think by a 74/19 margin than Benghazi is a worse political scandal than Watergate, by a 74/12 margin that it's worse than Teapot Dome, and by a 70/20 margin that it's worse than Iran Contra. One interesting thing about the voters who think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history is that 39% of them don't actually know where it is. 10% think it's in Egypt, 9% in Iran, 6% in Cuba, 5% in Syria, 4% in Iraq, and 1% each in North Korea and Liberia with 4% not willing to venture a guess.At any rate what we're finding about last week's Benghazi focus so far is that Republicans couldn't be much madder about it, voters overall think Congress should be focused on other key issues, and Hillary Clinton's poll numbers aren't declining on account of it. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main...zi.html
You realize you're quoting a democratic pollster...right! Where the CEO is a regular Democratic party Doner! Its all about the questions...how they are asked...who is asked...then ya get your " intended "...result !! you base a lot of your arguments on polls don't ya.
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irisheyes
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When border agents were shot it was also blamed on Eric Holder and Obama. You know who were never blamed by the conservatives? The actual shooters. You'd spend hours trying to find a news source talking about the real killers and bringing them to justice, but you can be sure they were ready to tar and feather Eric Holder, Obama, and the ATF.
Any news on the search for the people involved in the attack? Have the repubs on the oversight committee asked any questions about them? Do they really care, or are they busy asking about press releases and why Obama called it "an act of terror" as opposed to calling it an act of terrorISM. 
They'd still be talking about birth certificates and teleprompters, but those had to run out of momentum eventually.
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MADDOG
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I didn't know if I should put this here or in the Liar, Liar thread.
QUOTE Obama names Susan Rice as national security adviser despite Benghazi controversy Published June 05, 2013 FoxNews.com President Obama named Susan Rice as his national security adviser on Wednesday, despite persistent criticism from Republicans over her initial account of the Benghazi terror attack. Obama, speaking in the Rose Garden, called Rice a "tireless advocate" for advancing America's interests. "She is at once passionate and pragmatic," Obama said. Rice will replace Tom Donilon, who is resigning from the post. Rice, the current U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, does not need Senate confirmation for the job. foxnews
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