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:dunce: ^^Here’s a list of the Embassies attacked while W was President, forty some folks killed, why weren’t you Republitards bitching then?

Calcutta, India
Karachi, Pakistan
Denpasar, Indonesia
Islamabad, Pakistan
Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Karachi, Pakistan
Damascus, Syria
Athens, Greece
Sana'a, Yemen
Istanbul,Turkey
Sana'a, Yemen


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Calcutta, India-Heavily-armed gunmen have attacked the US Government's information center near the American consulate killing five Indian policemen.

Karachi, Pakistan-Twelve people were killed and 51 injured, all Pakistanis.

Denpasar, Indonesia-Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah, an Islamic terrorist organization.    No fatalities.  :oops:

Islamabad, Pakistan- not sure which one you are referring to?  The bombing in 2012(Obama White House denies two Americans died.) or 2010 (Obama) or May 2003-two people killed, no mention on lost lives of Americans.

Tashkent, Uzbekistan-Two Uzbek security guards were killed in both bombings. The Islamic Jihad Union claimed responsibility.

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia-five confirmed dead among our locally engaged staff and one of them is a contract [security] guard," the US embassy spokeswoman Carol Kalin said.  No Americans had been killed.


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:dunce: ^^Here’s a list of the Embassies attacked while W was President, forty some folks killed, why weren’t you Republitards bitching then?

Calcutta, India
Karachi, Pakistan
Denpasar, Indonesia
Islamabad, Pakistan
Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Karachi, Pakistan
Damascus, Syria
Athens, Greece
Sana'a, Yemen
Istanbul,Turkey
Sana'a, Yemen


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...ilities

Most of us were!  The main differance between these earlier incidents and what happened at Bengazi is these other incidents were labeled terrorist attacks when they happened.  Not called, or blamed on,  something else first.  I for one do rate this on par with "Watergate", the differance is nobody died during the break in.  And just one other little fact,  it wasn't the break in that cost Mr. Nixon his job, it was the coverup.


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I always find it ironic how so many conservatives claim to care about 4 American deaths in Benghazi, when they voted for George W. Bush twice.  You remember him, right?  The President responsible for over 5,000 American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, who had intelligence prior to 9/11 yet did nothing, who invaded a country with the threat of WMD’s (yet found zero) and while Bush was President we saw 11 embassies attacked by terrorists.

Don't forget Bush did not go into Iraq without congressional support! Even Hillary voted in favor!!! Remember Hussein was the one bragging about and threatening use of WMD...

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I always find it ironic how so many conservatives claim to care about 4 American deaths in Benghazi, when they voted for George W. Bush twice.  You remember him, right?  The President responsible for over 5,000 American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, who had intelligence prior to 9/11 yet did nothing, who invaded a country with the threat of WMD’s (yet found zero) and while Bush was President we saw 11 embassies attacked by terrorists.

Don't forget Bush did not go into Iraq without congressional support! Even Hillary voted in favor!!! Remember Hussein was the one bragging about and threatening use of WMD...

Yes...4 Americans were left to fend for themselves after an order for potential support was to stand down...then the powers that be lied about and continue to cover-up the incident. Any rational American citizen should be outraged that your govt heads refuse to protect our US diplomats.


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It's funny the republitards in DC are doing this to damage Clinton but most of the kooks hate Obama so much that they blame him instead of the intended target of the smear. :dunce:

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Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates forcefully defended the Obama administration on Sunday against charges that it did not do enough to prevent the tragedy in Benghazi, telling CBS' "Face the Nation" that some critics of the administration have a "cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces."

Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.

"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.

Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."

"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.

Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."

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Then that begs the next question...If our gov't does not have a contingency plan to address these threats nor intelligence information of what's happening on the ground or what the risks are...then what in the hell are we even doing sending civilians to man an embassy?

I'm shocked that the libs on this forum are doubling down on defending this f-up by the administration.  Does it not concern you that the they changed the talking points 12 times to finally settle on blaming a US citizen who posted a youtube video then subsequently detained him?

WTF?   :frusty:
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Politicians change talking points? I'm shocked...

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Politicians change talking points? I'm shocked...

Yea...especially loved Rices excuse she based her assertion on the intelligence she received...from whom?? The Libyan officials!!!!  Cause she sure didn't pay attention to our own US officials on the ground begging for support!!!

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Neither side wants to talk about the real lesson of Benghazi: interventionism always carries with it unintended consequences. The US attack on Libya led to the unleashing of Islamist radicals in Libya. These radicals have destroyed the country, murdered thousands, and killed the US ambassador. Some of these then turned their attention to Mali which required another intervention by the US and France.

Previously secure weapons in Libya flooded the region after the US attack, with many of them going to Islamist radicals who make up the majority of those fighting to overthrow the government in Syria. The US government has intervened in the Syrian conflict on behalf of the same rebels it assisted in the Libya conflict, likely helping with the weapons transfers. With word out that these rebels are mostly affiliated with al Qaeda, the US is now intervening to persuade some factions of the Syrian rebels to kill other factions before completing the task of ousting the Syrian government. It is the dizzying cycle of interventionism.


Santorini, even the Libyan officials said the Benghazi attack was premeditated and had nothing to do with a protest about the video. Nobody knows why the heck they blamed it on the video. Doesn't even make sense that they tried keeping up that lie for so long.


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