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OK so looking at the list by state WHY is Minn's # so low?
Dan I am glad you are taking a stand on this subject of sex offenders. This little web site obviously "digs" into things a little deeper than the state site can post but only 96? We would all like to believe that we have a cleaner state of no sex offender but that just isn't true. These are only the ones that have moved up here fom Iowa and they tracked them.
There are a few states worse than us I guess.
Quote from Family Watchdog.....
"Unfortunately, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont do not currently provide addresses for registered sex offenders. Consequently, we are unable to provide adequate or meaningful information about sex offenders located in these states. We will add functionality that will allow searches by name and city in the future.
We suggest that you contact your state senators and representatives and ask them why you cannot have access to critical information you need to protect your loved ones. Tell them that you want the same registered sex offender location information that is available to your neighbors in surrounding states.
We will continue to monitor these four states. When they begin publicizing offender address information we will provide it to Family Watchdog visitors.
So we are not the last state to get on this but close to.
Dan you get this ball rolling and get our system better and clearer to the public you got my whole family's vote come election time (even though I am a democrat). 
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,4:36 pm |
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I found a newspaper article: 
Former Cedar Falls man sentenced for molestation.
Judge does not accept plea bargain, sentences man to six months in jail.
By CHARLOTTE EBY
Courier Staff Writer
WATERLOO
A judge sentenced a former Cedar Falls man to six months in jail Thursday for molesting a 12-year-old girl, despite a prosecutor's recommendation that the man receive probation.
Jon Mark Pittman, 39, now of Charles City, pleaded guilty to indecent contact with a child in August for fondling the girl earlier this year. In exchange for his plea, Black Hawk County attorney Doug Eichholz agreed to recommend a two-year suspended sentence at the time of Pittman's sentencing.
But at the sentencing hearing Thursday, District Associate Judge Jeffrey Harris said he would not accept the sentence agreed upon in the plea deal and ordered Pittman to begin serving his jail term immediately.
Pittman has worked as an area magician who performs hypnosis as part of his act. The abuse did not occur while he was working as an entertainer.
Pittman's attorney, John Ackerman, had asked for a suspended sentenced and probation to be imposed, saying his client had been honest when confronted with the allegations and had never been convicted of a crime before.
"I take full responsibility for my actions. I know what I did was wrong and very shameful," Pittman told Harris.
Before the sentence was handed down, Pittman told Harris he didn't want to go to jail while he was participating in a sex offender treatment program.
But Harris told Pittman he had robbed the girl of her innocence and sentenced Pittman to one year in jail with all but six months suspended.
"You should receive the same consideration you showed for the victim, which is none," Harris said.
Pittman will have to serve two years of probation after his release and will have to register as a sex offender. Harris also fined him $1,500 and ordered him to pay for the counseling of his victim until she turns 21.
(end of newpaper article)
I find it a little bit scary that according to this article this person knows how to perform "hypnosis"
Does that suggest that he can do things to children that they won't remember?.
I am wondering what other people think about this?
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I did not have the same luck finding information on Jonathan Cochran. But I do have a case # for his court caseand I was told by the Polk County Courthouse (the county in IA of his conviction) over the phone that if I went into the courthouse and told them the case # the court records (the details) on the case are public information then. Does anyone have any friends or relatives in the Polk County area that would be willing to go to the courthouse in Polk County and get this information? I want to know the details of the case so we can know how concerned we should be about this person living close to a school. Jonathan Cochran was convicted of "Lascivious Acts With A Child". Here is the Iowa law on "Lascivious Acts With A Child":
709.8 LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH A CHILD.
It is unlawful for any person sixteen years of age or older toperform any of the following acts with a child with or without the child's consent unless married to each other, for the purpose of arousing or satisfying the sexual desires of either of them:
1. Fondle or touch the pubes or genitals of a child.
2. Permit or cause a child to fondle or touch the person's genitals or pubes.
3. Solicit a child to engage in a sex act or solicit a person to arrange a sex act with a child.
4. Inflict pain or discomfort upon a child or permit a child to inflict pain or discomfort on the person.
numbers 1-3 are very, very serious and I would like Minnesota to make a law preventing people that do those things from living that close to a school/daycare/city park.
Let Me know if anyone wants the case number from Jonathan Cochrans court case that can help.
Also I have a question for REPDAN: Would a petition help pass a law that would prevent sex offenders from living close to schools and would a petition also help in better comminuty notification policies regarding sex offenders?
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,5:25 pm |
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Excellent information Preemptive...good finds.
Clearly this guy did not just take a wiz in public. I had wondered what Iowa defined as "Lascivious Acts with a Child".
Thank you.
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,5:27 pm |
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i would be willing to go down to polk county to expose this dirt bag please pm me with the details i need thank you
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,6:48 pm |
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Texas list all but have them in catogories identifying by different colors on the map check out this zip 78654
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,6:48 pm |
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| Quote (preemptiveprevention @ Jan. 27 2006,5:06pm) | I did not have the same luck finding information on Jonathan Cochran. But I do have a case # for his court caseand I was told by the Polk County Courthouse (the county in IA of his conviction) over the phone that if I went into the courthouse and told them the case # the court records (the details) on the case are public information then. Does anyone have any friends or relatives in the Polk County area that would be willing to go to the courthouse in Polk County and get this information? I want to know the details of the case so we can know how concerned we should be about this person living close to a school. Jonathan Cochran was convicted of "Lascivious Acts With A Child". Here is the Iowa law on "Lascivious Acts With A Child":
709.8 LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH A CHILD.
It is unlawful for any person sixteen years of age or older toperform any of the following acts with a child with or without the child's consent unless married to each other, for the purpose of arousing or satisfying the sexual desires of either of them:
1. Fondle or touch the pubes or genitals of a child.
2. Permit or cause a child to fondle or touch the person's genitals or pubes.
3. Solicit a child to engage in a sex act or solicit a person to arrange a sex act with a child.
4. Inflict pain or discomfort upon a child or permit a child to inflict pain or discomfort on the person.
numbers 1-3 are very, very serious and I would like Minnesota to make a law preventing people that do those things from living that close to a school/daycare/city park.
Let Me know if anyone wants the case number from Jonathan Cochrans court case that can help.
Also I have a question for REPDAN: Would a petition help pass a law that would prevent sex offenders from living close to schools and would a petition also help in better comminuty notification policies regarding sex offenders? |
Slow down lets get get the all the facts on the table. The good news is the DOC will come down and hold a meeting. Knowing what I know now, I would not support the bill to ban them from 2000 feet of a school. Why? 80% of the level 2 and 3's live in MPLS St. Paul and Duluth, the DOC has drawn the map, there is very little space in these cities so where do the move.....Out state.
I talked to the person who is in charge of Iowas site today. Since the law passed that prohibits the 2000 feet, the number of people who have stopped reported has doubled!
The person that you referecce, has to notify MN within 5 days of moving in according to Iowa law at that point, the local people make a decision on what to do, if they believe it warrents it, the can treat the person like a level 2 and notify the effected community IE the people who live in the area of the school.
If I understand the law that you site, this could be a 16 year old and and 15 year old doing what many of us might have done when we were in high school. How much time and resources should we spend tracking that person for 10 years when the chance the re-offend is very, very small? In a world with unlimited funds maybe it would make sense, but there are better ways to keep our kids safe with the resources we have.
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,6:53 pm |
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| Quote (preemptiveprevention @ Jan. 27 2006,4:36pm) | I found a newspaper article:
Former Cedar Falls man sentenced for molestation.
Judge does not accept plea bargain, sentences man to six months in jail.
By CHARLOTTE EBY
Courier Staff Writer
WATERLOO
A judge sentenced a former Cedar Falls man to six months in jail Thursday for molesting a 12-year-old girl, despite a prosecutor's recommendation that the man receive probation.
Jon Mark Pittman, 39, now of Charles City, pleaded guilty to indecent contact with a child in August for fondling the girl earlier this year. In exchange for his plea, Black Hawk County attorney Doug Eichholz agreed to recommend a two-year suspended sentence at the time of Pittman's sentencing.
But at the sentencing hearing Thursday, District Associate Judge Jeffrey Harris said he would not accept the sentence agreed upon in the plea deal and ordered Pittman to begin serving his jail term immediately.
Pittman has worked as an area magician who performs hypnosis as part of his act. The abuse did not occur while he was working as an entertainer.
Pittman's attorney, John Ackerman, had asked for a suspended sentenced and probation to be imposed, saying his client had been honest when confronted with the allegations and had never been convicted of a crime before.
"I take full responsibility for my actions. I know what I did was wrong and very shameful," Pittman told Harris.
Before the sentence was handed down, Pittman told Harris he didn't want to go to jail while he was participating in a sex offender treatment program.
But Harris told Pittman he had robbed the girl of her innocence and sentenced Pittman to one year in jail with all but six months suspended.
"You should receive the same consideration you showed for the victim, which is none," Harris said.
Pittman will have to serve two years of probation after his release and will have to register as a sex offender. Harris also fined him $1,500 and ordered him to pay for the counseling of his victim until she turns 21.
(end of newpaper article)
I find it a little bit scary that according to this article this person knows how to perform "hypnosis"
Does that suggest that he can do things to children that they won't remember?.
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This is a good examaple of why Iowa is changing there system. You look at the site and they all look the same, bad, but this guy is way more of a concern to me then the 16 and 15 year old parking.
Assuming this is all correct, I wonder what ranking the locals gave him? If the believe him to be a threat they can notify the people around and in the school, but it does not sound like this has happened? But again, to be clear, I may not have all the facts.
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,6:55 pm |
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| Quote (cheeba @ Jan. 27 2006,3:01pm) | OK so looking at the list by state WHY is Minn's # so low?
Dan I am glad you are taking a stand on this subject of sex offenders. This little web site obviously "digs" into things a little deeper than the state site can post but only 96? We would all like to believe that we have a cleaner state of no sex offender but that just isn't true. These are only the ones that have moved up here fom Iowa and they tracked them.
There are a few states worse than us I guess.
Quote from Family Watchdog.....
"Unfortunately, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont do not currently provide addresses for registered sex offenders. Consequently, we are unable to provide adequate or meaningful information about sex offenders located in these states. We will add functionality that will allow searches by name and city in the future.
We suggest that you contact your state senators and representatives and ask them why you cannot have access to critical information you need to protect your loved ones. Tell them that you want the same registered sex offender location information that is available to your neighbors in surrounding states.
We will continue to monitor these four states. When they begin publicizing offender address information we will provide it to Family Watchdog visitors.
So we are not the last state to get on this but close to.
Dan you get this ball rolling and get our system better and clearer to the public you got my whole family's vote come election time (even though I am a democrat). |
Yup, but undestand I don't view the Iowa system as better. 35% of the victims of sex crimes are over 18 and in Iowa these don't show up.
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,7:44 pm |
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| Quote (repdan @ Jan. 27 2006,6:48pm) | Slow down lets get get the all the facts on the table. The good news is the DOC will come down and hold a meeting. Knowing what I know now, I would not support the bill to ban them from 2000 feet of a school. Why? 80% of the level 2 and 3's live in MPLS St. Paul and Duluth, the DOC has drawn the map, there is very little space in these cities so where do the move.....Out state.
I talked to the person who is in charge of Iowas site today. Since the law passed that prohibits the 2000 feet, the number of people who have stopped reported has doubled!
The person that you referecce, has to notify MN within 5 days of moving in according to Iowa law at that point, the local people make a decision on what to do, if they believe it warrents it, the can treat the person like a level 2 and notify the effected community IE the people who live in the area of the school.
If I understand the law that you site, this could be a 16 year old and and 15 year old doing what many of us might have done when we were in high school. How much time and resources should we spend tracking that person for 10 years when the chance the re-offend is very, very small? In a world with unlimited funds maybe it would make sense, but there are better ways to keep our kids safe with the resources we have. |
If it is a 15 and a 16 year old doing what some people have done when they are in high school I don't think taxpayers money should be wasted tracking them, but in this case it was a 30 year old with someone aged 0-13.
Also it came to my attention today that the person I reference does not live at the address given on the site www.mapsexoffender.com the person I reference bought a house on Garfield ave. that is closer to Hawthorne School then the previous address. (I do not know how accurate is the information I recieved but it was a very reliable source) If this person has to notify MN within 5 days of moving why is the address not updated yet?
REPDAN,
I thank you for taking the time to communicate with us on this forum. Is their a timeline yet on when the DOC will come down and hold a meeting?
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