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bob 
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2006,6:01 pm |
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i will be calling hawthorne school tommorrow and speaking to the principal about this situation
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leave my signature alone assholes
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The Game
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2006,7:20 pm |
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Glad to see that were back on track here. War, Great job with the news folks. As far as the folks from Iowa coming here, lets face it, it makes sense. Minnesota reporting allows them to fly under the radar. It is a few very short miles to get back to Iowa for those that have family there. Much closer than say Austin or Rochester. The police may know that they are here, but the rest of the public has to find out for them selves.
I am almost positive that Sheriff Harig and ALPD Chief Winkles and Lt. Strom would love to have the option to tell us or to make information available. I also understand that they have rules put on them.
From what I can see on the Iowa site and via Watchdog. The change I would like to see the state legislature make is that ANYONE regardless of classification (which is subjective to the person doing the evaluating) who is convicted or adjudicated of a crime sexual in nature AGAINST a child, should be put on the net AND OR be subject to community notification, or even a central notification point such as the law enforcement center where a flyer can be put up and thus have a notified public.
I do not agree with someone getting popped for urination having to be listed or even tried as a sex offender. Even those who are sex offenders and fall into level 1 status can be withheld or exempt from notification, for the sake of compromise, as long as the offense did NOT take place against a child.
My goal is to protect the kids and ensure that those who have committed a sex crime against a child NEVER has the chance to do it again. Realistically it will take an informed public to help that a child does not fall victim to one of these men and women.
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2006,11:41 pm |
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I think I found a loophole in the rules regarding the privacy of level 2 sex offenders. 
This information is taken from a neighborhood liaison handbook from the city of Falcon Heights, MN.
LEVEL 2 SEX OFFENDER INFORMATIONis made AVAILABLE when:
1.) law enforcement notifies schools, day care centers, or other organizations where potential victims of the offender might be found, based on his pattern of offending behavior. Law enforcement may also notify individuals whom they believe may be potential victims of the offender, again based on the pattern of behavior.
2.) a citizen goes to the police stationand asks for information about offenderswho target a specific population, which directly affects the citizen. For example, you may ask the department about offenders who target grade school boys because your grandson visits you often, but the police department will not give you information about level 2 offenders who target adolescent girls.
If these rules apply to the entire state of Minnesota then all of the concerned parents and grandparents in Albert Lea should exercise this right and get informed about the risk to their children/grandchildren in their neighborhoods/schools/daycares/city parks/churches.
This Question is for REPDAN: Do these rules apply only to the people of Falcon Heights, or do these rules apply to the State of Minnesota? If these rules apply to the State of Minnesota please let us know so we know we can go to the police station and be informed of any potential risks to our children/grandchildren. If these rules do not apply to Albert Lea, how come they apply to one city in Minnesota but not another?
And REPDAN:
I really like your idea of trying to bring the BCA down here for an informational meeting!
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Posted on: Jan. 26 2006,11:59 pm |
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Jebus! My kid's school is only a mile from Falcon Heights!
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steph
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,8:30 am |
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Bob..Please let us know what the Hawthorne Staff has to say about this.
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repdan
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,8:49 am |
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Replicant,
Like you, I am troubled by our police not being able to talk. I need to do some checking. We need to be able to get good information. If 1 or 2 of the five are level 3 types and 1 or 2 of them a just making level 1, we want to know. I will do some checking on why they can't talk.
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carpe ductem.....remember we're all in this together..I'm pull'n for you.
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repdan
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,8:56 am |
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| Quote (preemptiveprevention @ Jan. 26 2006,11:41pm) | I think I found a loophole in the rules regarding the privacy of level 2 sex offenders.
This information is taken from a neighborhood liaison handbook from the city of Falcon Heights, MN.
LEVEL 2 SEX OFFENDER INFORMATIONis made AVAILABLE when:
1.) law enforcement notifies schools, day care centers, or other organizations where potential victims of the offender might be found, based on his pattern of offending behavior. Law enforcement may also notify individuals whom they believe may be potential victims of the offender, again based on the pattern of behavior.
2.) a citizen goes to the police stationand asks for information about offenderswho target a specific population, which directly affects the citizen. For example, you may ask the department about offenders who target grade school boys because your grandson visits you often, but the police department will not give you information about level 2 offenders who target adolescent girls.
If these rules apply to the entire state of Minnesota then all of the concerned parents and grandparents in Albert Lea should exercise this right and get informed about the risk to their children/grandchildren in their neighborhoods/schools/daycares/city parks/churches.
This Question is for REPDAN: Do these rules apply only to the people of Falcon Heights, or do these rules apply to the State of Minnesota? If these rules apply to the State of Minnesota please let us know so we know we can go to the police station and be informed of any potential risks to our children/grandchildren. If these rules do not apply to Albert Lea, how come they apply to one city in Minnesota but not another?
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I really like your idea of trying to bring the BCA down here for an informational meeting! |
I'll do some checking. I think the level 2 stuff should be available.
My sense is that it would apply to Albert Lea. But I am not sure what happens when someone from Iowa or any other state that just lumps them all together moves in.
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repdan
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,12:11 pm |
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Up-date.
Spoke with several people today in the MN Dept of Corrections. I don't have all the details yet, but Iowa has changed the way they classify offenders. There was a "heinous" crime and passed a law last July that requires them do put the offenders in levels 1 through 4. The reason? It was felt that without the levels, the worst of the worst we able to blend in. I am trying to find out who they will report on their web site.
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bob
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Posted on: Jan. 27 2006,12:26 pm |
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just got off the phone with hawthorne school the lady i spoke with said that are fully aware of the situation and they have a number of teachers on the playground during recess she also says they are doing the best they can
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