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For those who like to educate themselves beyond the 10 second clip that CNN showed you about the UC Davis pepper spraying... turns out that the "innocent" protesters were not so innocent.  They surrounded the officers and were demanding the release of the prisoners that the officers had with them:
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Or here is genius protester that admits that they prevented the officers from leaving and sat there after being told that they would have to go through them if they didn't move (around :55 in).  If someone kept you from freely leaving somewhere it would probably be considered kidnapping or something similar:
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 If someone kept you from freely leaving somewhere it would probably be considered kidnapping or something similar:

Hmm, both the videos I put up were quite a bit longer than ten seconds.
Kidnapping huh? That seems a bit of a stretch. Especially since the cop who sprayed them walked between two of the kids sitting on the ground to get in front of them. The rest of the police couldn't walk through them? Odd.
Guess we'll have to wait for the investigation to be released. It was supposed to be released already, but the police are fighting it. Should be out within the next month though.

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Statement from the Episcopal Diocese of NY

March 30, 2012

The Rt. Rev. Mark S. Sisk, Bishop of New York, Bishop Coadjutor the Rt. Rev. Andrew M.L. Dietsche and Assistant Bishop the Rt. Rev. Andrew D. Smith issued the following joint statement today:

At the six month anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement, we repeat our support for the principles of Occupy, and our conviction that the issues and challenges raised by this movement are in our opinion among the most important of our day. At our convention in January the Diocese of New York affirmed our commitment to these principles, and to the tradition of nonviolent civil disobedience as a means of putting the legitimate concerns of people of conscience before the public eye and before the powers of civil government.

http://www.dioceseny.org/news_it...p-frisk
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pfffttt, what a bunch of socialist loving religious kooks  :crazy:

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What do you expect?  He's an Episcopal.   :rofl:
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Rosalind doesn't like fracking--
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I can't believe I am even going to respond to your reverse osmosis comment as being the right option instead of considering STOPPING the poisoning of our water supplies:
Reverse Osmosis does not remove all of the chemicals that ends up in water from the process of fracking. There are still some chemicals that can't be removed, which in fact degrade the reverse osmosis filters quite rapidly, and cause cancer. There are people whose water has been poisoned by fracking, and are now dying of cancer.


If this "science" is settled--where are the Obamunists on the issue?  Wouldn't you THINK that the advocates of big government and government control would make this illegal? :dunno:

MAYBE it's because there has been no proof of your contentions.  Can you name any government studies that come to this conclusion (libbies ALWAYS trust government studies!)
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Can you name any successful lawsuits that showed that someone "died because of fracking?"

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People whose land and water is damaged by fracking can't even sell their property and leave. Nobody in their right mind would buy it.[/
 People won't buy an OIL or GAS well? :p

Back to the subject of this thread--

ISN'T IT INTERESTING that the "Occupiers" that oppose fracking and demand "clean air and water" cause such filth in the very public parks they "occupy"?  

Santorini's list was right on.  More liberal hypocrisy. :dunce:

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This thread on 1st amendment or breaking the law does not only apply to occupiers.
How about the media?  
Especially most recently with the Trayvon Martin case.   Like it is not tragic enough, then the media outlets NBC, msnbc, CNN all LIED and manipulated the 911 recording of the call!!   All this manipulation was to paint this case as racially motivated...to incite more anger with the public, and perpetuate continued separation.  As baseless and unfounded as the information they reported was (NBC played the fudged tape 5 times!) they continued to go with the racism card!  Inciting anger with the NAACP! Jackson & Sharpton, of course, adding their 2 cents, and the public in general angered over this racially motivated attack.
All this incited anger based on a LIE and manipulation.
OH, yea, they had to apologize...
ooops...it was an editing problem!  Yea, like adding words and phrases and omitting others :dunce:
THIS issue they were caught at...how many others have gone unnoticed and ignored??

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"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
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"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Your point :dunno:

Mine is quite simple:  most everyone screams for protection under the 1st Amendment...yet, most want nothing to do with personal responsibility...anything goes regarding interpretation of expression.

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^ oh c'mon! Responsibility is the the realm of the gov. Not it's citizens! :sarcasm:

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(alcitizens @ Apr. 06 2012,8:43 am)
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"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

You forgot to add the part where it says that I swear to castigate any unelected group of people who might overturn a duly constituted and passed law that the president approved.

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