|
|
| Post Number: 61
|
Botto 82 
Group: Members
Posts: 6293
Joined: Jan. 2005
|
 |
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,11:05 am |
|
   |
Now one for you: Is there any action or policy of the Obama Administration that you won't defend?
--------------
Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
- Kurt Vonnegut
|
 |
|
|
| Post Number: 62
|
MADDOG
Group: Moderator
Posts: 7821
Joined: Aug. 2003
|
|
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,11:17 am |
|
 |
--------------
Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 63
|
|
|
| Post Number: 64
|
Botto 82
Group: Members
Posts: 6293
Joined: Jan. 2005
|
|
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,12:07 pm |
|
|
It's the same operating philosophy of Rush Limbaugh. In the early 90's, the Bush Administration could do no wrong, and subsequently the Clinton Administration could do no right.
Blind followers are blind followers, no matter which side of the aisle they're from.
--------------
Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
- Kurt Vonnegut
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 65
|
Common Citizen
Group: Members
Posts: 4818
Joined: Jul. 2006
|
|
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,12:19 pm |
|
|
I disagree. Although I can't attest to the 90's as I never listened to him then, he has been critical of not only W but of the majority of the Republicans in the past 8 years.
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 66
|
Botto 82
Group: Members
Posts: 6293
Joined: Jan. 2005
|
|
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,12:50 pm |
|
|
Before the Republican Party departed from so-called 'conservative' values, Rush was more as I described. Since the time of more government growth under Bush 43, not so much. But he was as I described, back then.
--------------
Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
- Kurt Vonnegut
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 67
|
hymiebravo
Group: Members
Posts: 4989
Joined: Jan. 2006
|
|
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,2:25 pm |
|
|
All I've seen as of late was Liberal pointing out the obvious bias and slant that was being offerered up as some sort of irrefutable proof of fact.
Romney & Newt don't like the way Obama operates. There's a real shocker. Newt is political to the core. He plays the game, strong and hard. Which I think may be to the detriment of the country at times. Wasn't he basically credited with shutting down the government when Clinton was president?
So pointing out the obvious slant of the presented material.
Has turned into him backing everything Obama does.
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 68
|
hymiebravo
Group: Members
Posts: 4989
Joined: Jan. 2006
|
|
Posted on: Apr. 23 2009,3:06 pm |
|
|
You know the policies of a party are determined at a grassroots level. Where people get together and decide what is important and what sort of actions should be put into motion and implemented by the elected officials.
Perhaps somebody can show me the text in the Democratic Platform that would bolster the arguments made by some here.
I heard Bush asking to try and save some of these entities too.
It's easy to say let them all fail and file bankruptcy. But that isn't a magic bullet either. People wind up getting screwed over in those actions too.
Not to mention the domino effect that would be put into motion that would reach lots of people as well.
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 69
|
MADDOG
Group: Moderator
Posts: 7821
Joined: Aug. 2003
|
|
Posted on: Jun. 01 2009,3:35 pm |
|
|
So it appears that he will be both.
QUOTE In a speech at the White House hours after GM filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in New York, Obama hailed GM's plan to emerge from its current woes as "credible" and "full of promise." But he also sought to reassure Americans skeptical about the plan's provisions to transfer a 60 percent ownership stake in the company to the U.S. government in return for an additional investment of about $30 billion during and after the bankruptcy process. The new infusion of cash will bring the total U.S. commitment to GM to about $50 billion. "We are acting as reluctant shareholders, because that is the only way to help GM succeed," Obama said. "What we are not doing -- what I have no interest in doing -- is running GM." Washington Post
Tell me of liberals of the great forum.
When did Congress authorize Obama to take 60% ownership of a private industry and convert it to a government owned majority?
Show me the legislation authorizing this act.
That's $50 billion dollars of our money to choke down. How many of you don't think that with $50B socked into a copany that the government is going to stay out of the auto business?
Yeah, we know that Bush illegally took money out of TARPO too.
Specifically, the Constitution says, “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.”
When Obama first stated he was moving ahead to restructure GM and Chrysler and infusing taxpayers dollars, White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs justified the action-Bush did it too. QUOTE “I think the determination has been made both by the previous administration and the current administration that this assistance is legal, and our goal is to ensure that the taxpayers in any instance when this is used feel confident that it’s being done in a transparent and accountable way.”
When House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer where Obama derived the legal authority to do what he was doing. Hoyer candidly said he did not know.
WTF? QUOTE “I don't know, technically. I would be kidding you to mouth some words on that, because I don't know technically where that authority would be,” said Hoyer. “But my own view is that if it is perceived they don't have that authority and it is perceived by the Congress they need to have that authority, the Congress would probably be willing to give that authority. But I don't know technically the answer to that question.” Probably would have? Percieved? story
Good Grief!
For such a thing that Obama did to happen legally, a 2/3 majority of Congress is required.
Obama is truly a socialist ruler.
Attached Image
--------------
Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
|
|
|
|
| Post Number: 70
|
Liberal
Group: Moderator
Posts: 11451
Joined: Aug. 2003
|
|
Posted on: Jun. 01 2009,4:27 pm |
|
|
Does the GOP have a better plan, or is this just more of the republicans shouting from the sidelines because they've been put out to pasture?
I wonder who speaks for the GOP these days?  
--------------
The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
|
|
|
|
|
|
