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REPOMAN 
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,3:33 pm |
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tell us again how the President said the UBL and al-Qaeda were mosquitos that he wasn't going to be bothered with - he stated that at a security briefing - right...  
I love that story...
what a bull$hit artist you are...
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Alfy Packer
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,5:03 pm |
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"W" is totally blind to there being anything wrong with the actions he takes. He is not the first President to suffer from poor vision but he is totally lacking in any facilities to compensate for his short comings. That does not make him a bad man, but it does make him truly dangerous.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,6:16 pm |
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Conservative scholars Bruce Fein and Norm Ornstein argued yesterday on The Diane Rehm show that, should Bush remain defiant in defending his constitutionally-abusive wire-tapping of Americans (as he has indicated he will), Congress should consider impeaching him.
| Quote | BRUCE FEIN, constitutional scholar and former deputy attorney general in the Reagan Administration: I think the answer requires at least in part considering what the occupant of the presidency says in the aftermath of wrongdoing or rectification. On its face, if President Bush is totally unapologetic and says I continue to maintain that as a war-time President I can do anything I want I don't need to consult any other branches that is an impeachable offense. It's more dangerous than Clinton's lying under oath because it jeopardizes our democratic dispensation and civil liberties for the ages. It would set a precedent that would lie around like a loaded gun, able to be used indefinitely for any future occupant.
NORM ORNSTEIN, AEI scholar: I think if we're going to be intellectually honest here, this really is the kind of thing that Alexander Hamilton was referring to when impeachment was discussed. |
http://thinkprogress.org/2005....offense
Senators Chuck Hagel ® Nebraska and Olympia Snowe ® Maine call for probe of Bush's domestic-surveillance program.
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History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors.
~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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REPOMAN
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,6:45 pm |
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you can dream - there's no law against that... 
because President Bush will not be impeached - period... 
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REPOMAN
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,6:50 pm |
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How different is what President Clinton did back in 1995 from what President Bush is doing now - feast your eyes:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
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For Immediate Release February 9, 1995
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12949
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FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE PHYSICAL SEARCHES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution
and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("Act") (50 U.S.C. 1801,
et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for
the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes
as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the
Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a
court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of
up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications
required by that section.
Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney
General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain
orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign
intelligence information.
Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following
officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or
defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section
303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical
searches:
(a) Secretary of State;
(b) Secretary of Defense;
© Director of Central Intelligence;
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation;
(e) Deputy Secretary of State;
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense; and
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that
capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications,
unless that official has been appointed by the President, by and with
the advice and consent of the Senate.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 9, 1995.
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Wolfie
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,7:36 pm |
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Show me that the people that were/are being wiretapped for intel are American citizens and we might have an arguement. But if they are not then they do not have the same rights as American citizens do, plain and simple.
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Many good men have died to guarantee your freedoms, live your life like it was worth dying for.
I have the ability to make the 1200 meter shot, but some targets deserve the up close kill, where you can watch the life leave the eyes while the blood ebbs from the body.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,7:45 pm |
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| Quote | | How different is what President Clinton did back in 1995 from what President Bush is doing now |
| Quote | Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney
General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information. |
looks like he's still using the Court FISC
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History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors.
~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,7:56 pm |
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| Quote (Wolfie @ Dec. 20 2005,7:36pm) | | Show me that the people that were/are being wiretapped for intel are American citizens and we might have an arguement. But if they are not then they do not have the same rights as American citizens do, plain and simple. |
We don't know what the NSA has but read this on the Pentagon Database on US Citizens
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History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors.
~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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REPOMAN
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,8:39 pm |
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you chase down all the ghosts for us there, Ex-Patriot...
have fun - myself - I'll support my President and my government as they try to protect me and my fellow citizens (even you) from more terrorist attacks like 9/11...
President Bush will never win with your crowd anyway - so in my opinion there really isn't any reason to worry about you and yours... 
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REPOMAN
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2005,8:41 pm |
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by the way, dope - did you miss this part of President Clinton's order... 
| Quote | Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the
Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a
court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of
up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications
required by that section. |
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