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irisheyes 
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,6:16 am |
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(Common Citizen @ Feb. 08 2015,8:20 am)
QUOTE It's obvious your life has never been directly touched by this kind of evil.
The prisoners in Gitmo didn't hijack those planes on 9/11. What evil are you referring to?
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It's scary that a U.S. Senator would say things like that. Decades ago there were plenty that said the Japanese could rot in those internment camps. They had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, but who cares, they're the right color, aren't they?
They don't hate us because of rock n roll music and miniskirts. I think it has more to do with the billions of dollars in weapons every year we give to Isreal. But torturing and imprisoning people without charges is a pretty good recruitment tool for insurgents when we're seen violating the liberties we preach.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,8:14 am |
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This once-great country will soon end, and not from forces on the outside. And our so-called leaders, with Liberty's dying breath, will somehow find a way to blame the citizenry.
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Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,11:49 am |
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(irisheyes @ Feb. 09 2015,6:16 am)
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(Common Citizen @ Feb. 08 2015,8:20 am)
QUOTE It's obvious your life has never been directly touched by this kind of evil. The prisoners in Gitmo didn't hijack those planes on 9/11. What evil are you referring to? QUOTE It's scary that a U.S. Senator would say things like that. Decades ago there were plenty that said the Japanese could rot in those internment camps. They had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor, but who cares, they're the right color, aren't they?
You're comparing American citizens who happen to be Japanese sent to internment camps during WWII with enemy soldiers taken off the battle fields in Afghanistan and Iraq? That's rich.
That US Senator you're referring to did two tours as an infantry officer with the 101st Airborne in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's earned the right to say that and kudos to him for not sugar coating it.
QUOTE They don't hate us because of rock n roll music and miniskirts. I think it has more to do with the billions of dollars in weapons every year we give to Isreal. But torturing and imprisoning people without charges is a pretty good recruitment tool for insurgents when we're seen violating the liberties we preach.
But that's not what the Secretary used as his argument to close gitmo though is it.
QUOTE The prisoners in Gitmo didn't hijack those planes on 9/11. What evil are you referring to?
You didn't just ask this question did you? You're either living in a cave, blind, or an enemy sympathizer. Maybe all 3. 
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,12:24 pm |
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CC
QUOTE You're comparing American citizens who happen to be Japanese sent to internment camps during WWII with enemy soldiers taken off the battle fields in Afghanistan and Iraq? That's rich.
Then put them on trial and show proof. Or listen to the people with clear information on the cases who are saying most of the people are innocent.
QUOTE That US Senator you're referring to did two tours as an infantry officer with the 101st Airborne in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's earned the right to say that and kudos to him for not sugar coating it.
The recidivists in Guantanamo he's talking about. They were violent before being locked up and subsequently released? Or after? If they were involved with any attacks in the past, then also put them on trial with the evidence of prior "terrorism".
I also take issue with his statement "They don't hate us for what we do. They hate us for what we are."
I am a total peacenik. I do not in any way believe in or condone violence against others. But I also haven't suffered the way many of those in the Middle East and many other areas have, due to the US government meddling, lying and attacking.
Would I still be a peacenik if I had been an innocent person, kidnapped, stolen from my family, and tortured for a few years? - I hope I would. I think I would? But I do understand the anger so many people must have after suffering as much as so many have.
Would things be as bad as they are if the US hadn't goaded the Soviet Union into invading Afghanistan? Would things be as bad as they are if the US and Saudi Arabia hadn't created jihad schools and violent textbooks and classes teaching children to become jihadists to attack Soviets? Would things be as bad as they are if the US hadn't destroyed Iraq's sewer and water and imposing sanctions that killed over a million people? Would things be as bad as they are if the US hadn't lied it's butt off and invaded Iraq, devastating the country even more and killing even more innocent people?
How about if the US hadn't meddled in Iran and had the elected PM overthrown so that the UK could keep stealing the oil of Iran?
Pretty sure that whole area would be a completely different place right now if America had never meddled and if it didn't put it's "interests" above all else.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,12:31 pm |
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Irish:
QUOTE The prisoners in Gitmo didn't hijack those planes on 9/11. What evil are you referring to?
CC:
QUOTE You didn't just ask this question did you? You're either living in a cave, blind, or an enemy sympathizer. Maybe all 3.
I'm not living in a cave or blind. I'm not an enemy sympathizer or a prison girlfriend either. I'm also wondering what evil you are referring to.
The evil of being born in the wrong country?
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,12:43 pm |
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(Rosalind_Swenson @ Feb. 09 2015,12:31 pm)
QUOTE Irish: QUOTE The prisoners in Gitmo didn't hijack those planes on 9/11. What evil are you referring to? CC: QUOTE You didn't just ask this question did you? You're either living in a cave, blind, or an enemy sympathizer. Maybe all 3. I'm not living in a cave or blind. I'm not an enemy sympathizer or a prison girlfriend either. I'm also wondering what evil you are referring to. The evil of being born in the wrong country?
Islamic radicals. Haven't you heard of them? Cripes, they've had their beheading videos in the news and on youtube for years now.
I don't remember seeing the same kind of outrage and contempt for these radicals that you do the US.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,9:09 am |
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What is wrong with comparing Christians to Muslims?
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