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It sounds to me that the detainees are being blamed for the expense of Guantanamo? Cuz they just love being there? As if they have any say in what is going on in this place? Repeat: Most of these people were locked up with no evidence of wrong doing. Taken away from their homes and loved ones for over a decade. Tortured, held without trial. If any other country was doing this to a group of people what would the reaction be?
I don't understand how any anger is being directed at these people.


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DOCUMENT - USA: GUANTÁNAMO AT 13: USA STILL IGNORING HUMAN RIGHTS PRINCIPLES AND EXPECTING OTHERS TO DO WHAT IT REFUSES TO:

Thirteen years is a human rights outrage. Detainees held for year after year without charge or trial. Torture and other ill-treatment, enforced disappearance, arbitrary detention, excessive force, force feeding, a handful of prosecutions under a military commission system that does not meet international fair trial standards.


Informative document on a few different aspects of Guantanamo.
http://www.amnesty.org/en...en.html

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The cost of the marquee, along with a smaller sign positioned near the airfield: $188,000. Among other odd legacies from war-on-terror spending since 2001 for the troops at Guantanamo Bay: an abandoned volleyball court for $249,000, an unused go-kart track for $296,000 and $3.5 million for 27 playgrounds that are often vacant.

The Pentagon also spent $683,000 to renovate a cafe that sells ice cream and Starbucks coffee, and $773,000 to remodel a cinder-block building to house a KFC/Taco Bell restaurant.
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That does not include construction bonuses, which typically run into the millions.
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Many of the projects itemized in the breakdown are reminders of suburban America -- familiar settings re-created in a Caribbean hothouse to comfort the military personnel and contractors who run detainee operations.

Millions went to build artificial-turf football and baseball fields that professional players would envy, surrounded by a cluster of facilities, including a running track, a skate park, an outdoor roller hockey rink and batting cages.
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But the attacks gave the base new purpose as the global holding cell in the George W. Bush administration's "war on terror." It also gave military commanders justification to ask Washington for more money.
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KBR was paid $169 million to build the prison camps and related facilities. The company said that did not include bonuses paid by the government. The military did not provide information about bonuses paid to KBR or other contractors.
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The Pentagon decided to renovate it for the hundreds of lawyers, dignitaries, journalists and others who would travel here to attend military commissions.

Work was completed in May 2009. It now resembles a Days Inn, with 56 renovated rooms, new bathrooms, and lounges outfitted with television sets and comfortable couches. The cost: $2.2 million.

But the hallways of AV624 are eerily silent, the rooms empty.

"We did all this work and there's nobody here," the Navy captain said. "It's up to Washington to decide what to do with it."

Located on the western side of the base, AV624 is an inconvenient ferry ride from where the military commissions take place on the eastern side. There, some lawyers and journalists sleep in tents during the commissions.
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Nowhere is that more evident than at the Cooper Field complex along Sherman Avenue. With a pair of top-of-the-line baseball diamonds and a football field as its centerpiece, the complex looks like a high-end park in a U.S. resort town.

The Navy Morale, Welfare and Recreation Department has spent $7.3 million on the baseball and football fields, $164,000 for a skate park, $97,000 on a roller-hockey rink and $60,000 for a batting cage. Soon to come: a soccer cage for $20,000.

Near the skate park is the go-kart track, completed in 2006. The Pentagon said it spent $296,000 to build the track; the official base newspaper, the Guantanamo Bay Gazette, reported that it cost $400,000.

"This will be a great step in improving the quality of life for the entire community," Craig Basel, the then-recreation director, said during the ribbon-cutting.

But the go-karts rarely worked. The six cars are battery-powered and can barely hold a charge, faltering after one or two laps around the course. After numerous failures, the track was shut down last month. The cars are now covered with tarps.
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In the surrounding neighborhoods are most of the 27 top-dollar but modest-looking playgrounds built for a population of 5,500. In areas such as Fairfax County, planners allot one playground for every 2,800 people.

"The playgrounds are built around the number of neighborhoods the installations has, not by the number of children," said Blaisdell, the base commander, noting that the base has 15 neighborhoods.

The average cost of a playground at the base is $130,000, two to three times the cost of similar facilities in Fairfax and Montgomery counties.

There are 398 children younger than 18 at Guantanamo Bay. During a recent visit to the base, few of them seemed interested in the playgrounds. Still, $1.6 million has been awarded for more playgrounds, bringing total spending to $5.1 million.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...0604180

Am I pro-terrorist and anti-troop now?


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I'm sure the inmates feel like this,





Probably a few look like this.


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Again, why with the anger and hatred towards the prisoners? Most of whom never did anything wrong, but who have been locked up and tortured, denied any kind of trial? Why do you hate them so much?

Pretty sure most of the detainees think quite highly of their attorneys btw. Most of their attorneys have been trying to get actual just done for the prisoners.

Even the Chief Prosecutor has been trying to get justice for the people he was supposed to be prosecuting! He quit in disgust.
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We were told that all the men at Guantánamo were the “worst of the worst”. In my job as chief prosecutor, where my focus was on reviewing cases for potential criminal prosecution, it was obvious the label was mostly hype. While the label fits a few – like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – fewer than 4% of the 779 men ever sent there have or will face charges.

http://www.theguardian.com/comment...amo-bay

Here are some other big people who had issues with what was going on in Guantanamo:
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We will never know the names of so many of the CIA officers who spoke out against torture. They were among the brave men and women throughout the government who challenged the brutality approved at the highest levels of government, and they are responsible for bringing to light what so many wanted to keep in the shadows.

https://www.aclu.org/national-security/acts-courage-against-torture

So, why do you have so much anger and hostility for these prisoners?
What would your reaction be if it was a bunch of americans locked up by another country and having the same things done to them?


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That is what our govt does, it points it's finger at other countries for bad behavior all the while doing the same and worse.

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That is what our govt does, it points it's finger at other countries for bad behavior all the while doing the same and worse.

It takes talent to be voted the biggest threat to world peace. According to that Gallup poll, you have to add all the votes for Pakistan, China, Afghanistan and Iran together to equal the amount of votes America received. (Afghanistan, Iran, Israel and North Korea received the same amount of votes.)
We're #1!  :cheer:


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^Are you one of those prison girlfriends?  

It's obvious your life has never been directly touched by this kind of evil.

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Why do we pay $2.6 million annually per inmate at Guantanamo Bay?

For comparison, inmates at high-security federal prisons cost about $34,000 per year on average..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o...l-held-

Who are the people making all the money? Why do Republicans want to keep it open?

Nice try.  It was the liberal establishment who were concerned about their "rights" and insisted on resort like conditions for enemy pow's and far as who's getting paid?  Why don't you ask the CinC...or doesn't the buck stop there?
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Why do we pay $2.6 million annually per inmate at Guantanamo Bay?

For comparison, inmates at high-security federal prisons cost about $34,000 per year on average..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o...l-held-

Who are the people making all the money? Why do Republicans want to keep it open?

Nice try.  It was the liberal establishment who were concerned about their "rights" and insisted on resort like conditions for enemy pow's and far as who's getting paid?  Why don't you ask the CinC...or doesn't the buck stop there?

Republican Controlled House votes to block Obama plan to close Guantanamo

http://www.reuters.com/article...0130614
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(alcitizens @ Feb. 08 2015,8:41 am)
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Why do we pay $2.6 million annually per inmate at Guantanamo Bay?

For comparison, inmates at high-security federal prisons cost about $34,000 per year on average..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o...l-held-

Who are the people making all the money? Why do Republicans want to keep it open?

Nice try.  It was the liberal establishment who were concerned about their "rights" and insisted on resort like conditions for enemy pow's and far as who's getting paid?  Why don't you ask the CinC...or doesn't the buck stop there?

Republican Controlled House votes to block Obama plan to close Guantanamo

http://www.reuters.com/article...0130614

He's got a pen doesn't he?  He's even told us as much.  Besides he had a donk controlled house and senate in his first term so don't give me the blame Republican BS.  If it was important to him he could get it done.  Just look what he did to health insurance and that cost us a lot more.

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^Are you one of those prison girlfriends?  

It's obvious your life has never been directly touched by this kind of evil.

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Nuff said.

Prison girlfriend??! And what does your comment and video have to do with anything I posted?  I don't like the idea of my government kidnapping, imprisoning and torturing innocent people. - because of that I must be a "prison girlfriend" or there must be something wrong with me?
And how about all the lives directly touched by the evil of the U.S. government? Lives of Americans and the lives of people all over the world.

If the people locked up in Guantanamo are suspected of something, PUT THEM ON TRIAL. Don't just lock them up and throw away the key. ESPECIALLY when so many people have been calling foul on this whole thing from the start, and especially when even the chief prosecutor says the vast majority of people in there did nothing wrong, and quits in disgust.
Guantanamo "resort like conditions"? Where exactly do you vacation?

Global Gallup poll voted the USA as being the biggest threat to world peace. Iran didn't even come close to us, North Korea didn't even come close, China didn't come close, Pakistan didn't come close, Afghanistan and Israel didn't come close.
The rest of the world just hate us for our freedoms? Hey, maybe there are reasons we are considered the biggest threat to world peace?


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