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LIbERal, I'm criticizing the actions  of some, and pointing out how, I believe, as a whole, the militarization of police is a bad thing. I believe it is dangerous and entirely too expensive in a country having so many financial problems. Especially since crime and police fatalities have gone down so much.

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Of course it never occured to you that this might be because cops have become more militarized?  :dunce:


Nope, since it began about a decade before militarization started and has remained relatively level ever since. Even though the population is far greater than it used to be and there are far more police than there used to be.


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I guess in your twisted world view the cops should have just ignored the felon in possession of a handgun because they couldn't find the meth? :crazy:

Um, yeah... that's exactly what I mean...  :sarcasm:  
If you ever decide to get some help with your reading comprehension, you might also want to look into possibly trying to get some help building some critical thinking skills.

So yet again a topic has devolved into semantics and nit picking instead of actual discussion, and it gets really really old. I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks so. So I'm done (hopefully) with the pointless back and forth between us. I'll just try to ignore you for the rest of the topic.


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A cato institute study in 1999 said the militarization started 20 years prior to that. That would be 1979 when there were 215 police officers killed in the line of duty, last year there was 100. So once again you're full of BS.

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

http://www.cato.org/publica...rtments

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So yet again a topic has devolved into semantics and nit picking instead of actual discussion, and it gets really really old. I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks so. So I'm done (hopefully) with the pointless back and forth between us. I'll just try to ignore you for the rest of the topic.


Semantics? You complain that a felon in possession of a handgun was charged with being a felon in possession of a handgun when the cops served a warrant looking for 5lbs of meth and you're so crazy that you think because they only found a handgun and a small amount of weed they should have just let him go?

Don't expect me to ignore your crazy BS anti government/conspiracy theory ramblings.If you want to post your crazy crap without people calling you out then maybe you should consider posting on infowars.com, naturalnews.com or beforeitsnews.com with the rest of the crazies

Have you considered my suggestion about getting some better mental health care because whatever you're doing isn't working?


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A cato institute study in 1999 said the militarization started 20 years prior to that. That would be 1979 when there were 215 police officers killed in the line of duty, last year there was 100. So once again you're full of BS.

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

http://www.cato.org/publica...rtments

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So yet again a topic has devolved into semantics and nit picking instead of actual discussion, and it gets really really old. I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks so. So I'm done (hopefully) with the pointless back and forth between us. I'll just try to ignore you for the rest of the topic.


Semantics? You complain that a felon in possession of a handgun was charged with being a felon in possession of a handgun when the cops served a warrant looking for 5lbs of meth and you're so crazy that you think because they only found a handgun and a small amount of weed they should have just let him go?

Don't expect me to ignore your crazy BS anti government/conspiracy theory ramblings.If you want to post your crazy crap without people calling you out then maybe you should consider posting on infowars.com, naturalnews.com or beforeitsnews.com with the rest of the crazies

Have you considered my suggestion about getting some better mental health care because whatever you're doing isn't working?


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When and why was the program created?
Answer:  In the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Years 1990 and 1991, Congress authorized the transfer of excess DOD personal property to federal and state agencies for use in counter-drug activities.  Congress later passed the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1997; this act allows all law enforcement agencies to acquire property for bona fide law enforcement purposes that assist in their arrest and apprehension mission. Preference is given to counter-drug and counter-terrorism requests.


If you have a problem with the information, take it up with these guys:

http://www.dispositionservices.dla.mil/leso/pages/1033programfaqs.aspx

That Cato paper you linked to doesn't speak very well about police militarization does it.
Here's some other good reads from Cato on the militarization of police:
http://object.cato.org/sites...1n4.pdf

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa128.pdf

Here's an interesting recent article:
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Ilya’s post below takes on the astonishing claim by Washington Post blogger Paul Waldman that libertarians have not spoken out against the militarization of law enforcement. To the contrary, they have doing so for decades. The Cato Institute, for which I am Associate Policy Analyst, has for the last decade encouraged the work of Radley Balko, who is the nation’s leading journalist on the subject of police militarization.


As for the rest of your comment. You must not think the people in this forum are very intelligent.  
Can we stop this now? You and I shouldn't be enemies, so I don't know why we keep acting as if we are.


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As for the rest of your comment. You must not think the people in this forum are very intelligent.  
Can we stop this now? You and I shouldn't be enemies, so I don't know why we keep acting as if we are.

Here they come.

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Who cares when the military started giving them surplus? The militarization started before that, the Cadillac Gage Peacekeeper Armored Personnel Carriers have been in use since the mid 80s, New York swat had a tracked APC in the 70's, and Cleveland had one before that called Mother.

So I'm going to have to agree with Cato institutes date of 1979.

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You and I shouldn't be enemies, so I don't know why we keep acting as if we are.


There isn't one crazy conspiracy theorist on this forum that hasn't been ridiculed by me, and as long as I'm around I'll continue to ridicule you kooks. The thing that bugs me about you kooks is that even when your goofy conspiracies like FEMA camps, FEMA coffins, Obama buying up all the ammo, Sandy Hook being a hoax, multiple shooters in Aurora, and GM running lights don't pan out you just ignore the old conspiracy and start a new one. Then you nuts go around saying us normal folks just aren't paying attention or we aren't "awake" yet.

And I don't hate you crazies, I actually feel sorry for you. I can't imagine living in a world where the government sprays aluminum on you from planes 35,000ft in the air.


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LIbERal:
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I actually feel sorry for you. I can't imagine living in a world where the government sprays aluminum on you from planes 35,000ft in the air.


All this time I have felt sorry for you!! I can't imagine what it must be like to feel the need to twist everything someone says, or outright lie about what was said, just because I don't like the subject or person. Or is it that you only care about winning an argument no matter what, instead of finding out the truth of things? Or you just really hate when a person has opposing opinions from yours?

You can't stop! You lie, twist, lie some more, and when it's not working you call a person a bunch of names. Over and over and over. I think you have lied, twisted and called names in every single one of your posts in this topic! Do you honestly  think others are oblivious to it?

I really think it's a pathological problem with you.


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pssst, roz. :;):

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:rofl:  You find THE funniest pictures Grassman!

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^^^ sorry Roz but that's funny as hell
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