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Liberal 
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,8:48 am |
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What have any of you done to change anything, aside from acting like it's everyone elses fault?
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,9:43 am |
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(Liberal @ Feb. 10 2015,8:48 am)
QUOTE What have any of you done to change anything, aside from acting like it's everyone elses fault?
I've already talked about what I've done. Granted it's not much, but I do what I can. Unfortunately, going big takes far more money than I have. Far more money than most people have. Most everything I buy is used, I haven't had a car for years. I carpool or walk. I bring my own cloth bags to stores. When nobody is home the heat is set at 50. When the kids are not home the heat is set at 50. At night the heat is set at 50. We don't use household chemicals other than dish soap and laundry soap. We don't use pesticides or weed killers or anything on the lawn. Most importantly, I've been teaching my children the importance of taking care of the environment.- Being careful not to scare or depress them.
When their school decided to give students IPads, I complained, telling them students should also be taught to care for the environment, and while technology can be good, it's also quite damaging to the environment, and since the school is constantly having money problems, I also questioned how they were able to give so many students these devices. Then I find out that most schools in America are giving students IPads, laptops, or some other device. Even though they are horribly expensive and so many schools are always hurting for money. - To me it just doesn't make sense.
We use as little water and electricity as possible.
We recycle dang near everything, we don't buy much of anything that can't be recycled or the packaging can't be recycled.
Do I feel I am doing much at all? Hell no. If I could afford it, I would see to it that we didn't leave hardly any sort of footprint on the environment at all.
So I feel, the biggest way for anyone to help fix the problems, right now, is to alert more and more people to the actual problems. Otherwise, not much at all is going to change.
Am I wrong?
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Liberal
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,9:55 am |
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If you could afford it, you'd still sit on your lazy ass and post crazy conspiracy crap all over the internet.
Scare your kids? I heard one was so worried about going back to live with you that they jumped out of a moving car. How much more scared could someone be?
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,10:04 am |
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(Self-Banished @ Feb. 10 2015,9:43 am)
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(Liberal @ Feb. 10 2015,8:48 am)
QUOTE What have any of you done to change anything, aside from acting like it's everyone elses fault? Me? Probably not a damned thing. The world's been on the verge of collapse since I could pick up my first Weekly Reader, it seems it's still here. Even if we could do something as a nation do you think China or Russia or any other emerging economy going to conform? Doubtful. They're going to see it as an advantage to get ahead.
That's a valid assumption, but I happen to think if governments were honest with themselves, and especially honest with their citizens, that big changes would be made. The Aral Sea- gone. Every country in the world is having major problems with pollution in their air, land and water. Every country is dealing with water shortages. China is having to hand pollinate because their pollinators are gone for godsake. Not to mention all the other problems China has.
I don't think a Global Race to the bottom is the right choice.
You think there isn't going to come a point in the near future where it all hits critical? THEN, things will without a doubt change. But only because we've hit bottom.
liberal:
QUOTE Scare your kids? I heard one was so worried about going back to live with you that they jumped out of a moving car. How much more scared could someone be?
Wow, did you hear wrong. Nothing changes with you does it lib. Lies and insults. Great way to run a forum. 
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Liberal
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,10:41 am |
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More BS from the nutter.
http://www.wired.com/2014/05/will-we-still-have-fruit-if-bees-die-off/
China has bees, they hand pollinate for economic reasons. 
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Liberal
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Also if anyone cares the Aral sea had the rivers that supplied it diverted for irrigation in the 60s and the Soviets expected it to be empty by 1964.
At least she's consistent.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
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Liberal
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,11:21 am |
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Who cares what PBS said?
Now you're not concerned with the fact that the Aral sea is gone, now it's a pollution issue? 
Is there anything you won't lie about?
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,11:39 am |
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(Liberal @ Feb. 10 2015,11:21 am)
QUOTE Who cares what PBS said? Now you're not concerned with the fact that the Aral sea is gone, now it's a pollution issue? Is there anything you won't lie about?
Wired is more trustworthy than PBS. Got it.
QUOTE Now you're not concerned with the fact that the Aral sea is gone
The water is still gone yes? And how many lives did that devastate? How many people who depend on Lake Mead and others will also be devastated when that is gone?
liberal:
QUOTE Is there anything you won't lie about?
Goodgod I'm done. Obviously you don't see how ridiculous you've become in the last couple years. I've actually felt sorry for you so many times. You make things almost impossible here. But just when I think you realize how you must look to other forum members and that you have gotten over yourself, you start right back up. And are even more irrational and disgusting. Out of courtesy for the other forum members, I am done here.
Election coming up next year, better get some important discussions going.
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