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Rosalind_Swenson 
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,4:12 pm |
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Things going to magically get better ya think? Believe it or not, I don't like talking about depressing things, but I don't see that sticking our heads up our butts is a viable option on many things. Water shortages are already affecting us.
The historic water crisis has been rough on dairies, driving up the cost of feed and water. Consumers are seeing the effects at the grocery store.
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California farmers and ranchers paid 12.4% more for feed in 2013 than 2012, and this year's prices have surpassed last year's record highs, according to the state Agriculture Department. Farmers recently were paying as much as $350 a ton for premium alfalfa hay, a steep increase from the $200 to $250 a ton they paid last year.
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In Fresno, farmers who need extra water are paying $800 to $1,100 per acre-foot — about 27,160 gallons, or enough to cover an acre with a foot of water — since the county has no allocated water for agriculture this year, Holman said. Last year, growers could buy an acre-foot of water for $140.
http://www.latimes.com/busines...ry.html
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The Sylvania Chamber of Commerce estimates businesses lost a total of nearly $1.5 million dollars in economic revenue during the three-day water ban.
The "no drink" order definitely took its toll and business owners say it's a loss they may never make up.
The SCC director says between 150-200 restaurants are in and around Sylvania.
http://www.13abc.com/story...inesses
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"Some of the private records go back prior to 1860, and nothing has been like this," said Frost.
Frost says this year is so dry it is the tipping point. He says 10 percent of his cattle got so sick in a matter of days, they died or had to be put down when they couldn't digest the hay they were being fed.
In about the last five months, Frost has already sold about 40 percent of his herd.
http://abc7.com/archive/9431652/
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Aquifers provide us freshwater that makes up for surface water lost from drought-depleted lakes, rivers, and reservoirs. We are drawing down these hidden, mostly nonrenewable groundwater supplies at unsustainable rates in the western United States and in several dry regions globally, threatening our future.
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The Colorado River Basin, which supplies water to 40 million people in seven states, is losing water at dramatic rates, and most of the losses are groundwater. A new satellite study from the University of California, Irvine and NASA indicates that the Colorado River Basin lost 65 cubic kilometers (15.6 cubic miles) of water from 2004 to 2013. That is twice the amount stored in Lake Mead, the largest reservoir in the U.S., which can hold two years' worth of Colorado River runoff. As Jay Famiglietti, a NASA scientist and study co-author wrote here, groundwater made up 75 percent of the water lost in the basin.
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This coincides with a nationwide trend of groundwater declines. A 2013 study of 40 aquifers across the United States by the U.S. Geological Survey reports that the rate of groundwater depletion has increased dramatically since 2000, with almost 25 cubic kilometers (six cubic miles) of water per year being pumped from the ground. This compares to about 9.2 cubic kilometers (1.48 cubic miles) average withdrawal per year from 1900 to 2008.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news...-crisis
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Even as fall officially begins in Texas and temperatures dip into the low nineties, 97% of the state is suffering from an extended drought that is pitting neighbor against neighbor in a battle over water. Lakeside restaurants are closed, boat docks stand high and dry, farmers are at odds with suburban gardeners, and small town wells are depleted. In the state’s booming Oil Patch, the earth is cracked and the grass is brittle, but water is still gushing to hundreds of hydraulic fracturing operations. It’s water in, energy and dollars out at a gold-rush pace that some say cannot continue.
http://nation.time.com/2013...thirsty
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Cargill today announced that it will idle its Plainview, Texas, beef processing facility effective at the close of business, Friday, Feb.1, 2013, resulting primarily from the tight cattle supply brought about by years of drought in Texas and Southern Plains states. Approximately 2,000 people work at the Plainview facility, and they will receive company support.
http://www.cargill.com/news/releases/2013/NA3070552.jsp
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,6:25 pm |
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My grandparents used to take me on their annual fishing expeditions to Clear Lake, near Waseca. We'd catch our limit of crappies and bullheads (although I don't think there was a limit on the latter; these are the recollections of a five-year-old) and nobody involved suspected that the catch might be toxic.
Today? I wouldn't eat something caught in fresh water south of Lake Pokegama. (That's in Grand Rapids, Minnesota, for the geographically-challenged, where the Mighty Mississippi looks like a creek.)
We're effing this planet up. Only a profit-worshiping moron would suggest otherwise. And population growth shows no sign of abating, anytime soon. And the stupid people are outbreeding the smart ones now, and apparently, the vast majority of them are indifferent to all of this.
My point? I already made it, several posts ago, via Vonnegut. Scroll back, unless you're now so dumbed-down that even the intricacies of that elude you. If that is indeed the case, then you've totally made my point for me.
End of frakking rant.
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Feb. 09 2015,9:44 pm |
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If you're talking about about water scarcity and shortages. You don't have to travel any further than your own state of Minnesota.
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grassman
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,2:21 am |
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People don't get it (or want to), they just go to the store. That's where food comes from you know. What else can you buy at the store that you never would have thought 30 years ago? Bottled water, who would a thunk. You don't call the fire department after the building has burned to the ground. 
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grassman
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,6:15 am |
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Like I have said before, water is the core to life. Try giving bottled water to your crops, livestock, and everything else. Heck even our bottled water has been found to be compromised. 
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,6:41 am |
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(Botto 82 @ Feb. 09 2015,6:25 pm)
QUOTE My grandparents used to take me on their annual fishing expeditions to Clear Lake, near Waseca. We'd catch our limit of crappies and bullheads (although I don't think there was a limit on the latter; these are the recollections of a five-year-old) and nobody involved suspected that the catch might be toxic.
Today? I wouldn't eat something caught in fresh water south of Lake Pokegama. (That's in Grand Rapids, Minnesota, for the geographically-challenged, where the Mighty Mississippi looks like a creek.)
We're effing this planet up. Only a profit-worshiping moron would suggest otherwise. And population growth shows no sign of abating, anytime soon. And the stupid people are outbreeding the smart ones now, and apparently, the vast majority of them are indifferent to all of this.
My point? I already made it, several posts ago, via Vonnegut. Scroll back, unless you're now so dumbed-down that even the intricacies of that elude you. If that is indeed the case, then you've totally made my point for me.
End of frakking rant.
Don't hold back Botto, tell us how ya really feel 
I didn't realize it was admittedly this bad:
QUOTE It's the main reason that approximately 40 percent of our surveyed rivers, lakes, and estuaries are not clean enough to meet basic uses such as fishing or swimming.
http://water.epa.gov/polwaste/nps/outreach/point1.cfm
Grassman, it seems everything has a price tag now.
Hymie, maybe that should be Albert Lea's first step in promoting and building it's natural resources, not just dredging the crap out of the lakes, but doing something about the cause of the problems.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,8:41 am |
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Let this be our legacy, when space aliens discover our long-dead civilization: We could have save our planet, and ourselves, too, for that matter, but we were too lazy and cheap.
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2015,8:45 am |
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You say don't hold back about how we really feel about this subject Roz?
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