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I'm guessing that your misspelling of Reagan's name was an accident, but it's more telling than you know. During the Reagan Years (capitalization, mine) Don Regan shaped fiscal policy more than you know.

I'm guessing that you don't realize spelling is not an issue here.. I can still make my point by saying u r f'ed up in de hed.. :rofl:  :crazy:
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Now what? :popcorn:


How Human Activity Is Causing Earthquakes Across the United States
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Justin Worland 15 hrs ago
The Rock may be about to star in the earthquake disaster movie San Andreas, but it turns out California is no longer the leading state for quakes. Oklahoma had more than 500 earthquakes of magnitude 3.0 or greater in 2014. Quakes in the Sooner State are now hundreds of times more common than less than a decade ago.

And Oklahoma is not alone. Eight states in the South and Central U.S. are experiencing rapid earthquake growth as a result human activity, according to a new report from the United States Geological Survey (USGS).

“These earthquakes are occurring at a higher rate than ever before and pose a much greater risk to people living nearby," said Mark Petersen, a USGS official.

The man-made Oklahoma earthquakes are a relatively new phenomenon, the consequence of oil and gas drillers who have taken advantage of the fracking revolution injecting billions of gallons of wastewater underground. The increase in earthquake activity began in 2009, but the Oklahoma state government only acknowledged the role of oil and gas activity for the first time this week.

Energy producers often need to dispose of polluted waste underground to prevent contamination of freshwater. Researchers have suggested that the disposal of drilling wastewater deep underground may increase the stress on fault lines as far as 6 miles away, and subsequently trigger earthquakes.


Thus far, most of the Oklahoma earthquakes have been relatively small. But recent research suggests that bigger quakes may be on the horizon as a result of the reactivation of a 300-million-year-old fault line in the middle of the country, according to a study published Thursday.

The damage caused by even a moderately-sized earthquake in Oklahoma would likely be greater than in a state like California–Oklahoma lacks the tougher building codes that are common in states accustomed to quakes. A 5.6 magnitude earthquake, considered moderate in most places that typically experience earthquakes, rocked the state in 2011. More than a dozen homes were destroyed, and two highways buckled.

The Oklahoma state government said this week that it will take action to prepare for more man-made earthquakes, and launched a website to explain the problem to residents.

Other states experiencing human-induced earthquakes include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Ohio, and Texas, according to the USGS.

Previous research has suggested that fracking, a controversial process of oil and gas extraction that involves opening up fractures in shale rock deep underground, may be in part directly responsible for some of these earthquakes, but the USGS says that the process is only "occasionally the direct cause of felt earthquakes." Wastewater injection is a more common cause.


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This is off the thread topic, so I'll be brief. Roz, I feel your pain, though my involvement with these people was mercifully brief. They are self-justifying, knee-jerk-reaction-having overfunded morons who treat each and every case they encounter as some potential worst-case scenario, and often end up doing more harm than good, all at taxpayers' expense. It was a satisfying moment when I threw them out of my daughter's life for good. Again, I'm sorry you had/have to endure them.


Tim Engstrom agrees with you, and he specifically mentions Freeborn County workers in this article:
http://www.albertleatribune.com/2014...parents

I'm glad you didn't have to deal with them long. Our dealings with them were immediately over after I started showing people our file.

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Wastewater injection is a more common cause


Maybe they can do with fracking water like they've been doing in California for 20 years with used oil drilling water. Let the company tell regulators what chemicals they use, have the companies do their own tests, or let them pick their own third-party lab and when the drilling companies deem the water is safe, let them sell it to farmers for watering crops. Three birds, one stone. Companies don't have to worry about what to do with their waste, no injection wells, plenty of fresh clean water for farmers.  :sarcasm:  (Just in case that icon is actually needed to clarify my position for anyone)


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Tim Engstrom agrees with you, and he specifically mentions Freeborn County workers in this article:
http://www.albertleatribune.com/2014...parents

That has to be one of the best reads I've had in a long time.. I agreed with Tim Engstrom from beginning to end.. :dunno:

Its off topic but would make for a good topic.. I swear that I've been saying for 20 years that the parks around town are always empty.. Something just isn't right..

Kids need to get out and be kids away from adults and electronics.. There were very few fat kids when I was growing up.. We were told to go play and go where we wanted to, on foot or on bikes..
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NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.


The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.


According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed   to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.


“We’re essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the Antarctic Peninsula and the Thwaites and Pine Island region of West Antarctica,” said Jay Zwally, a glaciologist with NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on Oct. 30 in the Journal of Glaciology. “Our main disagreement is for East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.”  Zwally added that his team “measured small height changes over large areas, as well as the large changes observed over smaller areas.”


Scientists calculate how much the ice sheet is growing or shrinking from the changes in surface height that are measured by the satellite altimeters. In locations where the amount of new snowfall accumulating on an ice sheet is not equal to the ice flow downward and outward to the ocean, the surface height changes and the ice-sheet mass grows or shrinks.


But it might only take a few decades for Antarctica’s growth to reverse, according to Zwally. “If the losses of the Antarctic Peninsula and parts of West Antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in East Antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- I don’t think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.”


The study analyzed changes in the surface height of the Antarctic ice sheet measured by radar altimeters on two European Space Agency European Remote Sensing (ERS) satellites, spanning from 1992 to 2001, and by the laser altimeter on NASA’s Ice, Cloud, and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) from 2003 to 2008.


Zwally said that while other scientists have assumed that the gains in elevation seen in East Antarctica are due to recent increases in snow accumulation, his team used meteorological data beginning in 1979 to show that the snowfall in East Antarctica actually decreased by 11 billion tons per year during both the ERS and ICESat periods. They also used information on snow accumulation for tens of thousands of years, derived by other scientists from ice cores, to conclude that East Antarctica has been thickening for a very long time.


“At the end of the last Ice Age, the air became warmer and carried more moisture across the continent, doubling the amount of snow dropped on the ice sheet,” Zwally said.


The extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia, thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.  


Zwally’s team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of East Antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of West Antarctica and the Antarctic Peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.


“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”


“The new study highlights the difficulties of measuring the small changes in ice height happening in East Antarctica,” said Ben Smith, a glaciologist with the University of Washington in Seattle who was not involved in Zwally’s study.


"Doing altimetry accurately for very large areas is extraordinarily difficult, and there are measurements of snow accumulation that need to be done independently to understand what’s happening in these places,” Smith said.


To help accurately measure changes in Antarctica, NASA is developing the successor to the ICESat mission, ICESat-2, which is scheduled to launch in 2018. “ICESat-2 will measure changes in the ice sheet within the thickness of a No. 2 pencil,” said Tom Neumann, a glaciologist at Goddard and deputy project scientist for ICESat-2. “It will contribute to solving the problem of Antarctica’s mass balance by providing a long-term record of elevation changes.”


Looks like we have another 20-30 years some didn't think we had.  Looks like the ice went south for the winter.


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Study: Oil field operations caused California earthquakes

For the first time, scientists have reported that the underground disposal of waste water from oil drilling has probably triggered earthquakes in California, a problem already rattling nerves in Oklahoma and other states.

Researchers on Thursday tied a September 2005 swarm of moderate earthquakes in Kern County to three waste water disposal wells nearby. The wells opened between 2001 and 2005, rapidly increasing the amount of waste water stored underground near the White Wolf fault.

The research paper, published by the American Geophysical Union, could not prove with absolute certainty that the waste water injections caused the quakes. Earthquake swarms, such as the one that hit San Ramon last fall, are hardly unusual in California. But the authors calculated only a 3 percent chance that the Kern County swarm was mere coincidence.

The study also does not offer any indication of how common such human-induced quakes may be in California. "However, considering the numerous active faults in California, the seismogenic consequences of even a few induced cases can be devastating, the authors note.

America's recent oil production boom created a strange sideeffect of earthquakes shaking places that rarely felt them before.In 2015, for example, Oklahoma experienced 907 quakes larger than magnitude 3. Prior to 2008, the state averaged just two similarly sized quakes per year.

Scientists fixed the blame on injection wells, once considered the most environmentally responsible way for oil companies to deal with their waste water.

Oil wells typically bring to the surface large amounts of mineral-laced water mixed with petroleum. Once separated from the oil, the water can either be treated for reuse, dumped into evaporation ponds or pumped back underground for disposal. As injection wells pump large volumes of water back underground — often into different rock formations than it came from, they can change the pressure within the rocks, making faults more likely to slip.

The emergence of hydraulic fracturing, which uses high pressure water to crack underground rocks, has produced even more oil-field water that needs disposal.

Waste water injection wells can pose other problems. As detailed in a Chronicle investigation last year, California regulators for years let oil companies inject their waste water into relatively high-quality aquifers that were supposed to be protected bylaw.
California ranks as America's third largest oil producing state, and one of its most seismically active. Many of California's oilfields — along with their injection wells lie close to active faults, including the San Andreas. But California's frequent,naturally occurring quakes make it difficult for researchers to spot temblors that may have been triggered, at least in part, by human activity.

Scientists had previously tied quakes to underground injections of water into California's geothermal energy fields, but not to injections of oil-field waste water.

"You do have these swarms popping up unexpectedly in random places, said the research paper's lead author, Thomas Goebel, with UC Santa Cruz. "So we tried to be as rigorous as possible."

The quakes included in the new study, which struck near the Central Valley's southern edge, weren't large, with the most powerful registering magnitude 4.7. But injection wells have been linked elsewhere to quakes as large as magnitude 5.6, Goebel said.

"These are quakes that can be felt and can cause damage," said Shaye Wolf, climate science director for the Center for Biological Diversity environmental group. Her organization in 2014 issued astudy that counted 350 injection wells in California within 5 miles of an active fault.

"There probably have been other earthquakes induced by waste water injection that haven't been documented, just because no one looked,"Wolf said.

California's oil field regulating agency the Division of Oil,Gas and Geothermal Resources  is trying to get a sense of how prevalent the problem may be, a spokesman said Thursday. The agency has commissioned Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory to study the issue.

The results of this study will aid in permitting and regulating future waste water injection operations in the state,said division spokesman Don Drysdale.

David R. Baker is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer.E-mail: dbaker@sfchronicle.com Twitter:@DavidBakerS

This just can't be right. Hasn't the argument been, that there is just too much regulation?
California is in a serious drought and yet they take the chance of destroying what ground water they do have.


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