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nphilbro 
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Posted on: Feb. 05 2012,11:47 am |
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I'm just curious how the dichotomy in core values is so easily overlooked.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Feb. 05 2012,11:52 am |
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Maybe they're waiting on some sort of Super Ayn Rand (Now, with Religion!). Perhaps that's what all the Bachmann/Palin fuss was about.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Feb. 05 2012,5:00 pm |
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(Moparman @ Feb. 05 2012,1:25 pm)
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(Common Citizen @ Feb. 05 2012,11:17 am)
QUOTE So the pro-union crowd wants the freedom to be able to unionize the work place but do not want to give the actual workers the freedom to decide what is in hers or his own best interest.
Are you all on crack? What kind of country do you think we live in.
If you don't like the wages an employer is paying then take arse and find something else. The employer doesn't owe you anything.
Maybe you can start your own business and hire your own laborers since you think you're so smart.
nuff said... If an employee finds a better opportunely they will leave. They don't owe the employer anything either. Respect, appreciation, and fairness should be a two way street.
And you don't need a union to accomplish any of the above. IMO, unions are not the standard bearer for respect, appreciation, and fairness.
An employee should be free from harrassment, not only from their employer but also the union within the workplace. Let the employee decide how he wants his interest to be represented.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Feb. 05 2012,5:05 pm |
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A person supporting "right to work" does not mean they don't believe in the value of labor laws.
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Moparman
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,7:24 am |
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The employee does decide how his/her interests are represented when they accept a job at a union or a nonunion shop. Except for overtime and minimum wage "labor laws" really don't cover to much. It would be perfectly legal to work someone for 16 hours a day 365 days a year with no breaks, no vacation, and no benefits. And then when they burn out fire them for some made up cause. And yes, I know this is an extreme example, but it would be legal. IMO, calling this right to work is like calling Roe v. Wade right to life.
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,7:53 am |
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So if I'm working at a company and I've made my own contracts with them other workers can come in and void these contracts?
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,8:12 am |
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The Right to Work Amendment is a farce, it’s merely an attack on labor to increase profitability for the Corporate Masters..
Greed is shortsighted disease, it’s Republican Policy and legislation such as the Right to Work Amendment that cause Depressions.
The only thing proving Karl Marx wrong about capitalism has been the unions ability to create a middle class, that gone we’ll
be just another Banana Republic, the few, the proud, the rich hoarding all the wealth as the economy spirals to the depths of despair.
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,8:33 am |
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Isn't part of this probably Mike Parry trying to get attention for his election bid?
http://mikeparry.com/latestnews/
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