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So where are all the jobs in these states? WI seems to be really kicking it out!
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(Expatriate @ Feb. 03 2012,12:50 pm)
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"Right to Work" Laws: Get the Facts

Nice that you fail to post a link so unless the reader does some searching they wouldn't know this article was publiched by the AFL-CIO of Minnesota.

At least the link I put up by the Center of the American Experiment claims to be a nonpartisan institution.

The right to work bill before the house would allow workers to freely join a union if chosen, but at the same time it will protect employees from being coerced to pay union dues, support union political causes, or live under a collective labor agreement if she or he wishes to negotiate individually with the employer.

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Despite its misleading name, this type of law does not guarantee anyone a job and it does not protect against unfair firing.
 Who is trying to say it guarantees anyone a job?  And why should anyone be immune from being fired?  Why shouldn't an owner or boss have the right to hire or fire who he chooses?

Do your job well and/or work well with coworkers.  Follow instructions and meet or exceed expectations of your employer and you have no reason to worry about being fired.

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A “right to work” law is a state law that stops employers and employees from negotiating an agreement
That's more union hogwash.  The proposed Employee Freedom Bill is, in a nutshell, would make it so unions could no longer require membership or collect a due or fine a person who works for the same company and chooses not to join a union.  It allows Minnesotans to vote on whether or not they are forced to pay dues to a third party.  The bill also assures that union collective bargaining will not change.

In Minnesota if an employee refuses to pay union dues rihgt now, they're fired.  That neither sounds fair or freedom to choose.


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You really think doing your job well, getting along with coworkers, and meeting or exceeding expectations means you don't have to worry about being fired? If only it were that easy.  I have known plenty of people that fit all those things and were still sent packing. Workplace politics are by far the biggest thing one needs to worry about.  Unions have both good and bad qualities and they still have their place in some circumstances.  I guess if you don't want to work in a union shop don't apply there.
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You really think doing your job well, getting along with coworkers, and meeting or exceeding expectations means you don't have to worry about being fired? If only it were that easy.  I have known plenty of people that fit all those things and were still sent packing. Workplace politics are by far the biggest thing one needs to worry about.  Unions have both good and bad qualities and they still have their place in some circumstances.  I guess if you don't want to work in a union shop don't apply there.

Ha ha - A lot of truth there. That's why it's important to consider the right people's perspective when you consider issues like these.

Kids you should listen to Expatriate on this one. IMO


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Do your job well and/or work well with coworkers.  Follow instructions and meet or exceed expectations of your employer and you have no reason to worry about being fired.


That quote made me think of this movie:

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At least the link I put up by the Center of the American Experiment claims to be a nonpartisan institution.

Center of the American Experiment nonpartisan :rofl:  the only rightwing nut-job missing is Karl Rove

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The right to work bill before the house would allow workers to freely join a union if chosen, but at the same time it will protect employees from being coerced to pay union dues, support union political causes, or live under a collective labor agreement if she or he wishes to negotiate individually with the employer.

Right-to work is a race to the bottom, it's a downward spiral to lower wages and fewer benefits, less job security, if a worker feels less secure in his/her future s/he’s less likely to buy that new car or house the economy as a whole joins the downward spiral.. ( car salesmen lose their jobs )
The Republican party doesn’t care about the worker this is a total corporate sponsored organization their goal is to cripple funding to the Democratic party the actual party of the people.
Dues collection will be like Mike Parry’s ( R. Waseca) Bill, which plain and simple Union Busting legislation..
To make an amendment to put the fate of Union Workers on the Ballot to be decided by the general public most of whom have no idea of the working conditions in my view is dirty politics...The Only thing the Republican’s excel at..

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Who is trying to say it guarantees anyone a job? And why should anyone be immune from being fired? Why shouldn't an owner or boss have the right to hire or fire who he chooses?

Do your job well and/or work well with coworkers. Follow instructions and meet or exceed expectations of your employer and you have no reason to worry about being fired.

No ones job is guaranteed just because you belong to a union.. I spent a couple decades with UFCW Local P-6 (Wilsons) and longer with IBEW Local 949, in that time I've seen folks get canned, but for justified cause, I’ve also seen the Union stand up for members when the the Company unjustly pulled things.

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That's more union hogwash. The proposed Employee Freedom Bill is, in a nutshell, would make it so unions could no longer require membership or collect a due or fine a person who works for the same company and chooses not to join a union. It allows Minnesotans to vote on whether or not they are forced to pay dues to a third party. The bill also assures that union collective bargaining will not change.

In Minnesota if an employee refuses to pay union dues right now, they're fired. That neither sounds fair or freedom to choose.


Actually you’re wrong, Minnesota State workers have what’s called Fair Share it gives them the option to join the union or not, money is deducted from their check but it goes to charity, I believe this option is also implemented on County, City level but can depend on Contract language elsewhere. So this freedom you speak of already exists.
I’m unable to actually find the Bill language for this Amendment, does that mean if the voter’s approve this impending legislation it will be written later????
Mike Parry’s bills H.F. 2070 and S.F. 1607, make it almost impossible to collect union dues from State workers, State worker’s already the option not to join Unions, so what we’re talking about here is Republican Party Union Busting made legal by legislation..
I’m sure the Right to Work Law Amendment will contain similar language if this draconian legislation makes it to the ballot...


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Republican Motto: We can employ everyone if they'll accept wages of $1.00 per hour.. Take it or starve to death.. :woohoo:
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Democrat Motto: We will pay everyone $20 an hour and tax you $19 per hour so we can take care of you.
Both parties are just as out of touch as the other.
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So the pro-union crowd wants the freedom to be able to unionize the work place but do not want to give the actual workers the freedom to decide what is in hers or his own best interest.

Are you all on crack?  What kind of country do you think we live in.  

If you don't like the wages an employer is paying then take arse and find something else.  The employer doesn't owe you anything.  

Maybe you can start your own business and hire your own laborers since you think you're so smart.

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