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Question: OBAMACARE :: Total Votes:52
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Leave me alone, I can take care of myself. 9  [17.31%]
No, it will lead to rationing of health care. 2  [3.85%]
Why pay my neighbors health care, and he pays mine? 0  [0.00%]
The present system isn't perfect, but better than others 6  [11.54%]
Socialized medicine hasn't worked anywhere its tried 10  [19.23%]
Private insurance, AND government for those needing it 4  [7.69%]
Government coverage only for CATASTROPHIC claims. 2  [3.85%]
But...But....But....it has worked SO well in Canada 1  [1.92%]
Yeah, bring it on! 12  [23.08%]
"Obama gonna give me gas, pay my rent, be my doctor!" 6  [11.54%]
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Last night on the history channel they had a show on called"The Secrets of the Founding Fathers" one guy on there said the reason  it took so long to come up with the Constitution was that they were all drunk and high on Jeffersons dope. :dunno:

I did not catch all of it, but what I did see was pretty interesting.

I am quite sure they were being facetious.

If you read the any of the writings and letters, including the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers one will gain insight in the final drafts of the Constitution.

This was not the whole basis of the show. It was only one mans opinion, based on the fact that hemp and hemp products were so prevalent in that time period being an easily produced resource.  The Declaration was written on hemp paper. All the clothing was made out of what they called homespun  as well as the ropes and sail cloth for the ships. He said it took thirty acres of hemp to make all the ropes and sails for one large sailing ship.  Jefferson also smuggled seeds out of France which was a no no. Probably a better strain and at the time  a better rope was a military advantage. But no doubt by the guy,it was being smoked. Not meant to be a pot rant.

A lot of it was the typical Freemason involvement theorys of how most of the principals in the signing were Masons and the whole thing is to bring about the new world order with all the symbolism of the all seeing eye and unfinished pyramids and what not. I'm on the fence on that kind of stuff.

It would be a pretty good trick if something so secretive, so science fiction in nature, so far back in history ,linked to the Templars could be perpetuated then or now by a shadow group. But then in light of what we see today, maybe not. :dunno:

True or not, all plausible entertainment.  We will never know the truth. :cool:


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Right now I pay $570.00 per month for my daughter and I.

Jokes on me, just got the renewal, only going up 16.35 percent. :angry:
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Right now I pay $570.00 per month for my daughter and I.

Jokes on me, just got the renewal, only going up 16.35 percent. :angry:

WTH - Does that have to do with; "The History" channel?
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Democratic Leader Laughs at Idea That House Members Would Actually Read Health-Care Bill Before Voting On It Wednesday, July 08, 2009 By Monica Gabriel and Marie Magleby

Washington (CNSNews.com) - House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that the health-care reform bill now pending in Congress would garner very few votes if lawmakers actually had to read the entire bill before voting on it.

“If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn’t read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,” Hoyer told CNSNews.com at his regular weekly news conference.
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Just how can members of Congress attempt to pass a bill that could adversely effect this many people and this many private industries without even reading the bill.  Pelosi couldn't even produce a copy on the bill when asked.

Don't read the Tax and Spend bill, don't read Obamacare.  Why doesn't Waxman and Pelosi just install puppets in the House and Senate?

This is more suitable to the Kremlin.  They passed bills that way too.


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I saw the same thing on Fox this morning.  Only six republicans signed a pledge to read the bills in the future before voting, none were named.

Again, to say one side is any better than the others is lopsided.  

Some days I think the only reason that they call themselves one or the other is so they know where to park.


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Right now I pay $570.00 per month for my daughter and I.

Jokes on me, just got the renewal, only going up 16.35 percent. :angry:

You must have been under the misconception that insurance was actually to be used...
Strange how the Consumer Price Index (CPI) barely shows any increase in inflation but some how the ROBBER BARONS at the insurance company can justify a 16 percent increase...


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I saw the same thing on Fox this morning.  Only six republicans signed a pledge to read the bills in the future before voting, none were named.

Again, to say one side is any better than the others is lopsided.  

Some days I think the only reason that they call themselves one or the other is so they know where to park.

They have another two weeks to sign the pledge so we should probably wait and see.
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If that includes the house, Michelle Bachman will never get a chance to vote before Disney can consult with Fox News and turn it into an animated feature so she can comprehend it.

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If that includes the house, Michelle Bachman will never get a chance to vote before Disney can consult with Fox News and turn it into an animated feature so she can comprehend it.

Sorry, Nphilbro--but you walked right into that one--Disney owns ABC, and ABC is ALREADY in the tank for the Donks! :D

Here's a listing of what Disney owns--interesting! nullMy Webpage


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I saw the same thing on Fox this morning.  Only six republicans signed a pledge to read the bills in the future before voting, none were named.

Again, to say one side is any better than the others is lopsided.  

Some days I think the only reason that they call themselves one or the other is so they know where to park.

They have another two weeks to sign the pledge so we should probably wait and see.

It is terrible that they have to sign a pledge to do the job they are elected to do.

They are like an insidious cancer that can't be removed
without killing the victim.

This morning on fox they had a story about security guards caught sleeping on the job at some federal buildings (no excuse for that).. Lieberman was all upset that They were not doing their job.  I'll bet it has been awhile since he read a 1300 page bill.

When I see those guys like him that have been around forever D or R , I think, why can't we impose term limits on them just cuz they voted for them.

Where is that magic wand? :soapbox:


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