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Alfy Packer 
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2008,9:25 am |
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Dear Miss Priss,
The problem doesn't appear to be the building, or the Good Samaritan organization. It is first and foremost a behavioral problem belonging to the 4 or 5 girls being investigates. Then it becomes a supervisory problem that allowed this problem to go on and effect so many residents for as long as it did. It is an administration problem for not being more responsive when the first stories of this began to come out. Shutting down the organization and taking down the building because bad things happened there, although becoming fasionable, really doesn't make any sense to me. These young sociopaths should never again work with the elderly, and quite frankly I question if they should even have contact with living animals. The Good Samaritan organization should review this facility's management, organization systems and processes and make the changes apparent to be needed in supervision and make improvement in their hiring practices. Lastly the residents and this community need assurances that this resident home has and will continue to make every effort to prevent such acts from ever occurring again.
What really has upset me is that I know of several residents who have been sent to the hospital for dehidration while this abuse has gone on. Can't even see to it that the residents get enough fluids to stay healthy. They hire kids that would be screened out had they applied at any other health care facility in town, and let them run amuck with out supervision. Things do have to change there, but shutting the facility and knocking down the building doesn't improve anything.
Alfy
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dipsie
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2008,10:42 am |
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White Pride,
Quote: "So go vomit! Wanting someone to "choke his chicken" isn't disgusting! Most people call it forplay!"
If you think that an 80 plus year old man asking a 20 something young woman to "choke his chicken" isn't disgusting and that most people call it foreplay does that mean that you don't think what those teen-age girls did to the residents at Good Sam was wrong??
When they say the staff at the rest homes are supposed to take care of the residents I DO NOT think it means sexually! 
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White Pride
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2008,2:37 pm |
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(dipsie @ Aug. 30 2008,10:42 am)
QUOTE White Pride, Quote: "So go vomit! Wanting someone to "choke his chicken" isn't disgusting! Most people call it forplay!" If you think that an 80 plus year old man asking a 20 something young woman to "choke his chicken" isn't disgusting and that most people call it foreplay does that mean that you don't think what those teen-age girls did to the residents at Good Sam was wrong?? When they say the staff at the rest homes are supposed to take care of the residents I DO NOT think it means sexually!
I will try to explain my response in lay terms, filling in the blanks, so as not to confuse anyone any further.
What the girls did at GS is disgusting, revolting, absurd!
When Swede commented that they wanted to go vomit, I was under the impression it was over the idea of having one's chicken choked, and not in regards to what happened at GS. The reason I got this impression is that the comment immediately before Swede's didn't have anything to do with what happened at GS. It had to do with your daughter's experience at Thronecrest. The way it was all worded, it looked as though Swede thought ANY reference to manual stimulation is disgusting. My comment was merely to state that in consenting adults, this is quite normal, and an acceptable form of foreplay. I really didn't believe that I would have to outline the comment so specifically as to not offend anyone who couldn't read between the lines.
My comment had nothing, I REPEAT, NOTHING to do with what happened at GS NOR an elderly resident requesting such an act from a NA. Even though the thought of an elderly man looking to a young female for stimulation may seem very disgusting, I can't say that I would blame him for trying! If you were 80+, 2 steps from death's door, and perhaps not all there mentally, and had a young, active person at your beacon-call, wouldn't you make suggestions like that to entertain yourself in your final days? I would best most of us would, wether or not we care to admit it now. It happens all the time at every assisted-care facility in the world.
Now, if anyone wants to say that I condone what happened at GS, let me tell you right now, nothing could be farther from the truth. If I was the parent of one of those NAs, I would sit them down, and ask them "what the hell were you thinking? Don't you realize those people are someones parent, sibling, uncle, grandparent? They are human beings for christ's sake! You should be ashamed of yourself!"
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Dr. Pride here
I'm an ENGLISH speaking white GERMAN-AMERICAN, and DAMN PROUD OF IT!
What bothers people more... the fact others disagree w/them, or that the others just might be right after all?
If you're being stupid, acting stupid, or just plain stupid, I will not hesitate to let u know!
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busybee
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2008,3:35 pm |
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Botto82....that video....lmao! 
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ANTILIBERAL
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2008,4:56 pm |
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I had posted earlier how strange it was that 3 of the patients in the report died shortly after their abuse.
After talking with several people, it has become clear to me that the 3 deaths should be pivotal in this investigation. Although the sexual abuse is degusting, sick and criminal, these deaths need to be investigated much further.
I want to know if any of the patients that died - died of upper respiratory infections, pneumonia or specifically aspiration pneumonia? Because, it was stated that the aids put water in their mouths and then shoot/spit into vulnerable residents mouths. This would go directly to the lungs, much like water boarding causing aspiration pneumonia.
Also, putting fingers in the rectal area and in other body cavities, did that introduce infections?? Did any of the patients become septic? (Infected blood).
They tried to cover up 1st degree sexual assault by inserting fingers in the rectal areas, then all of a sudden the story changes that they are stimulating bowels?? Come on.
In my opinion a murder investigation needs to be top priority. This is more serious than some young girls behaving badly or using poor judgement. Who cares if they did not have a prior record. Maybe they never got caught before.
Any thoughts??
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ANTILIBERAL
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Posted on: Aug. 30 2008,5:17 pm |
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One more thing,
We need to get a hold of the attorney generals office, the media or 20/20 if our prosecutor does not have the guts to prosecute this case. Then the state of MN and the public needs to know beyond the scope of small ville Minnesota. I hope the family members of these elderly victims get together and does a class action law suit against the facility, the abusers, and the abusers family.
Good Sam needs to get rid of ALL administration. According to the health department, they did not find substantiation with Good Sam, however, who is going to want to put their family members there?? We do not know for a fact that ALL of the abusers are gone. How was this missed? How did it go on for so long? Any long term care facility policy has to include that we do not pair teenagers together. MORE SUPERVISION. What about nanny cams?
There should be a ZERO tolerance policy for elder abuse, including verbal, physical and sexual. PERIOD. Good Sam needs to clean house and start over with different staff or close down.
These girls are PSYCHOPATHIC SEXUAL PREDATORS, not your sweet little girl next door.
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