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Old Cracker 
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,7:18 pm |
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 Oh no, I'm old as dirt! My kids will put me in Good Sam and take my money. Oh lord, please take me now.
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Be nice to old people.
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Spidey
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,7:23 pm |
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This is horrifying, senseless, and should never have happened. GS needs to take some responsibility. They are the ones that hired these "girls".
I could never understand why nursing homes would hire young teens in the first place, or why there is no degree of any kind needed. Old people are not exactly held in high regard in our society, especially by young people. To hire them to care for the elderly AND THEN leave them alone with no supervision is asinine.
I am ashamed to admit that I worked there for a short time years ago while in transition of jobs. It was the most awful job I have ever had. Not because of the elderly, but for the way we were "trained in", which was 2 or 3 days of ... nothing. Lot's of paper work and discussions on the residents rights.
I quit before I found another job because I couldn't stomach working there. I doubt this is the first time things like this happened. The employees seem to have a need to cover for each other with just about everything that goes on there.
I say shame on GS for not training better. New NA's should be "with" a seasoned NA for a very long time before going on their own. There should also be some kind of standard training with a degree for these employees and not just babble from human resource.
This makes me so angry. I wish now I would have said something to someone about what I saw and heard, but to everyone else there .. it was "normal".
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,7:28 pm |
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Good Points Spidey. I too think Good Sam should take responsibility for their part.
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,9:53 pm |
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I have been a Certified Nursing for nearly 12 years. When I was 17 I had just quit as a Whopper Flopper at our local Burger King. My mom whom had worked as a CNA for many years talked me into coming to St Johns and try it. As most people at first the thought of doing that job "grossed me out". But I said I would give it a try. Well nearly 12 years later here I am still working in a nursing home. But looking back I know now I was quite immature for the job at that time but on another note this job helped me grow up. It helped me respect my elders. It has helped me overall be a better person.
I have tried a couple different nursing home before deciding I love working at St Johns the best.
My job is more mental than physical. Even though the job can physically be very challenging.... the thought process is much greater. You need to think about how to put the resident before the task. Learning a bit of the residents history on how they may like things. Alot of it is common sense. How would you like to be treated in this situation (whichever it may be at the time.)
In this case that we speak of all of the residents involved were dementia/alzheimers. So they wouldn't be able to communicate such behavior done to them in most cases let alone be believed. (Sadly.)
I have been beat up, spit on, sexually grabbed, had a bone broke, almost had my jaw broke etc. BUT in these situations one HAS to tell themselves that the action being done onto them is not the resident acting it is the disease acting. Thats where there is really no proper amount of training time.
I am still learning something new everyday I work. We all learn from each other on ways to deal with the stress. If you are having those feeling of stress where you might do or say something you will regret we are taught that as long as the resident is in a safe situation (IE sitting down) you simply walk away. Go take an extra break, go breathe for a moment. When you are ready go try again or let someone else take over if it seems necessary. These things obviously are not what these girls took into consideration. They were just simply mean girls. Brats. This is not over yet. They will get what is coming to them.
KAAL News Story from tonight (8/28/08)
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Scarlet
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,10:03 pm |
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(Spidey @ Aug. 28 2008,7:23 pm)
QUOTE This is horrifying, senseless, and should never have happened. GS needs to take some responsibility. They are the ones that hired these "girls".
I could never understand why nursing homes would hire young teens in the first place, or why there is no degree of any kind needed. Old people are not exactly held in high regard in our society, especially by young people. To hire them to care for the elderly AND THEN leave them alone with no supervision is asinine.
I am ashamed to admit that I worked there for a short time years ago while in transition of jobs. It was the most awful job I have ever had. Not because of the elderly, but for the way we were "trained in", which was 2 or 3 days of ... nothing. Lot's of paper work and discussions on the residents rights.
I quit before I found another job because I couldn't stomach working there. I doubt this is the first time things like this happened. The employees seem to have a need to cover for each other with just about everything that goes on there.
I say shame on GS for not training better. New NA's should be "with" a seasoned NA for a very long time before going on their own. There should also be some kind of standard training with a degree for these employees and not just babble from human resource.
This makes me so angry. I wish now I would have said something to someone about what I saw and heard, but to everyone else there .. it was "normal".
I am ashamed to admit that I worked there for a short time years ago while in transition of jobs. It was the most awful job I have ever had. Not because of the elderly, but for the way we were "trained in", which was 2 or 3 days of ... nothing. Lot's of paper work and discussions on the residents rights.
wow... the above i am not sure if it posted or quoted correctly by Spidey. ANYWAY....
why are you ashamed? It was aweful?? I worked there also for a bit. It was the hardest job to do IF you did it right!!! If you didn't learn anything by their orientation then you were not paying attentiong. BESIDES... I didn't need them to tell me to not spit on the residents or touch them wrongly! omg... this isn't an ethical part on Good Sam...it's ethically wrong on these employees! OMG... it's SICK.
that's all... and just wanted to say... Spidey, don't ever be ashamed of taking care of valuable people. I think you are a great photgrapher, but I would take better pride in caring for the living than photographing it. (THAT'S NOT A CUT OR AN INVITE TO A FIGHT)
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,11:00 pm |
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I hope the Nurse who was told outside of work (back in March)by one of the NA's that "things were going on" got fired too. She didn't check into it or check back with the NA.
Reading the report it looks like there were mainly 2 NA's who were doing the abuse and the others either might have witnessed some instances or were hearing about it second hand. I really can't believe that if there was that much gossip that nurses or admin weren't hearing about it.
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Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Scarlet
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Posted on: Aug. 28 2008,11:15 pm |
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So Spidey, you decided to argue? You didn't hear my meaning...so sorry you can't hear the info presented. I didn't cut on you. I was cutting on humans who need training to not behave poorly unless trained or told not to. Jeez Louise.
I actually thought Good Sam did well for initial training... it should also be said that at the time I was working there they were the ONLY nursing home that paid the full NA course at the college. The other nursing homes didn't do that...so in my estimation GS spends the money to ensure trained help.
The facts are, the "kids" in question were obviously F***ING ******* kids... trained in no way by their parents to treat humans as humans!!!!!!! I wish I knew who they were, I would personally reprimand them each as they disgust us all.
Sorry about the confusing photo comment. I meant that as a compliment. They are great. Just meant that when you were serving living people it was good....you should never be ashamed if you did right. I know you care about your pics....soo don't be ashamed of what you've done to deliberately hands on helped someone...no matter who was paying you. That's all...nothing bad about it...that's why I said not trying to argue. oofta.
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