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albertleamom
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,9:10 am |
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lets see how this is going so far
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,9:27 am |
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What do you think?
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bianca
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,10:26 am |
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We did this "unofficial" poll last year and it was an overwhelming no and that was with all the TEAM propaganda and the teachers telling their students in elementary school that they needed to "get" their parents to vote yes on the referendum.
Unless there's some governmental money tree that is going to blow in from Hurricane Dean, I don't see it happening again. Especially after Prescott went on tv last year and when asked what they were going to do after it was denied, he just said "we'll just try again next year."
Once again it's not that we don't want the best for our kids, that's just a way to make parents feel guilty about not saying yes. But they at least have to come up with something other than: "we'll try again next year." They can't keep waiting for handouts when the property taxes are so high now and people are still very bitter about "needing" that new highschool and "needing" that new courthouse to bring people in to boost our economy.
Most people in this town,esp. the many retired people cannot afford another hike in property taxes with no relief in sight from it for years. I was just in Wal-Mart yesterday and this little old lady came up to me and said," they have just rose their prices again, I just came here last week and this is 30 cents higher than it was then." They just can't do it, with all of their prescriptions and many of the babyboomers didn't even think about 401k so they're hurting in this town.
So when district 241 says "say yes and do it for the kids." I say, "say no and do it for the elders in this town that have to choose between groceries or medicines already."
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scorenix
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,10:55 am |
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Quote (bianca @ Aug. 21 2007,10:26am) | So when district 241 says "say yes and do it for the kids." I say, "say no and do it for the elders in this town that have to choose between groceries or medicines already." |
Sorry, but I disagree. Two things we need to make sure is superior: security and education. Education drops in town, much like security, and you have a major problem with perception.
Regarding our administration, I must be in a minority. I think the administration is pretty good.
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ICU812
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,11:00 am |
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What is the current budget?
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bianca
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,11:05 am |
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Regarding our administration
The teachers need to be accountable for test scores and teaching. It's called a yearly review. If they do their job they should get a raise which I am sure they do.
As far as the administration and their pay, it's like Victoria Simonson or Paul Sparks. They get what they get for salaries, we can't just say if they take money away from them things would be better because that wouldn't happen.
It's not all about the administration, it's the district as a whole.
-------------- I believe in the patriotism and energy and initiative of the average man. Woodrow Wilson Early in life, I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. — Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
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scorenix
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,11:16 am |
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Quote (bianca @ Aug. 21 2007,11:05am) | It's not all about the administration, it's the district as a whole. |
So starve it for cash, and everything will get better? It almost sounds like punishment, not trying to get better.
The district has been starved for cash because of a governor that will not send state education money to the rural areas.
And you have people like Jim Hanson (and I am not attacking him as you will read) who say the state shouldn't send education money to towns like Albert Lea, the decisions should all be local. So taxes go up whether it's the state or local. Unless you want education to fall further back.
Do you want to invest in education? Look at our county and city. Taxes are going to soar there, and you will have little input. Why? Because we've elected people who generally cannot balance their own checkbooks (as one county commissioner expressly stated). Education does not have the luxury of increasing taxes as they see fit.
-------------- "Here is something for those who think I have not done much on my own to think about. I must then be one of the luckiest people around, and I think I am, I should then be able to keep that same luck going for the benefit of our area." - New ALEDA Executive Director Dan Dorman.
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Spidey
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,11:29 am |
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These are "public" schools. Why are we trying to make them out to be world class private school wanna bees?
The teachers complain about not getting enough pay. Go to the private sector and see if you can make it there if you think your skills are over and above the public school system.
From what I can tell, the kids are "below" average according to news reports and statistics. Are many of the teachers saying that if they get their raise they will do better? Somehow this extra money in their pockets will encourage them to actually teach our children?
Shame, shame, shame
I say we take back our public school systems ... clean house and hire teachers that don't need hummers to get to work.
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bianca
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,11:49 am |
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Read the Trib today on the things that "could" be cut, IMO it's doable with not a lot of unreasonable cuts.
-------------- I believe in the patriotism and energy and initiative of the average man. Woodrow Wilson Early in life, I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. — Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
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albertleamom
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2007,11:53 am |
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Good post bianca! I think ole prescott really stuck his foot in his mouth when the only other plan he had was to vote on it again. Will we continue to vote on this every year? Stop making threats and just make the cuts then! We will learn to live with it!
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