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Frozen in MN 
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,1:49 pm |
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Dinomac -
I agree with your ideas and I wish I knew what business you ran in order to support it.
Albert Lea needs more people like you.
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dinomac
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,1:54 pm |
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We lost some of our best teachers this past year... decided it was time to move on. We need to vote YES or we will lose even more of our GOOD teachers, more of our GOOD doctors, more of our businesses and more of our graduates... who need the community to grow if we want them to stay!
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Sunkissed
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,1:55 pm |
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For so many reasons
VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe show our kids that they can't be taken advantage of!
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,3:16 pm |
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| Quote | | We lost some of our best teachers this past year... decided it was time to move on. We need to vote YES or we will lose even more of our GOOD teachers |
I don't think we lost any good teachers because they weren't getting paid as much as the rest of the local schools. I can't think of one good teacher that has left because the local school system doesn't pay as much as other local systems. Teacher pay is not the issue--teachers here are about in the middle of the pack for pay.
The issue is the school offerings. If we want to have the "Nice to have's"--the new school, the extracurricular activities, the sports, we'll have to ante up.
If we decide that we need more emphasis on EDUCATION, then there are enough places to cut to do what we wish--the school board areas considered for cuts were posted at the beginning of this thread.
For all of the heated rhetoric, this is just a BUYING decision. Is the product being offered worth the asking price? Is the product being offered elsewhere at a better price? Is the quality of the product being offered commesurate with the price asked?
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medic
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,3:54 pm |
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Dont forget about what they might find in your pipes when they come with that camera. If they dont like what they see and you have to fix it, how much is that goign to raise your taxes. Lets not forget the Bridge Ave project, I'm sure that wont be free.
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busybee
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,5:36 pm |
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jimhanson... 
| Quote | Public schools in the U.S. are doing a HORRIBLE job educating kids....The U.S. is far behind many other countries when it comes to education...
Don't tell me that things will get better by throwing more money at it--if that were true, then New York City and Washington D.C. would have the BEST schools, not the worst. In fact, the reverse is true--schools in the Northern tier of states spend the least per capita (so much for "economy of scale") yet have some of the best scholastic ratings in the country.
What needs to be done? A complete overhaul of the U.S. public school system. |
I vote YES to that! Great ideas too!
| Quote | | For all of the heated rhetoric, this is just a BUYING decision. Is the product being offered worth the asking price? Is the product being offered elsewhere at a better price? Is the quality of the product being offered commesurate with the price asked? |
Exactly! 
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busybee
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,6:08 pm |
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| Quote | | The community needs to pull together and vote yes. Education is important and our children are our future. Educational cuts are not a sign of a growing community, it is a sign that it is dieing. |
We should vote yes to prove our community is growing?
Please explain. Thanks.
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scorenix
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,8:45 pm |
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| Quote (busybee @ Aug. 22 2007,5:36pm) | What needs to be done? A complete overhaul of the U.S. public school system.[/quote]
I vote YES to that! Great ideas too! |
And Albert Lea, by voting to gut its educational system, will be paving the way for all of America to completely overhaul U.S. public education?
Yeah, I got that happening.
Like I've said before, but no one seems to want to take this on, the County will be boosting taxes by well over $1 million this next year. The city will follow suit. They will because they can. School board is different. They have to go to the voters (and before you say, well, that should be the case - it isn't, and it isn't going to change).
So which is more efficient? County government? City government? At least our educators are, well, educated. You can get a job at the county even if you can't read. Even if you don't meet the qualifications. Well, even if there really isn't a job opening. And compared to the private sector, you will get better pay, better job security and better benefits. And you have growing influence with an ever increasing employment base.
This city and county will tax people out of the market, and your sole beef is with the education system?
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cea
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,9:53 pm |
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| Quote (hockeyplayer @ Aug. 21 2007,10:23pm) | | We DID need a new High School. That old place was going on 100 years. The new high school is a state of the art facility and a spot for Albert Lea to start growing. |
At the time the select few were getting all hot and bothered about the old high school the majority of the building was under 60 years old. In fact if you want to get technical about it.
Administration building built in 1968
Maintenance building built in 1939
Cap Emmons Auditorium built in 1939
Lincoln building built in 1938
Shop Building built in 1968
New Gym built in 1968
Old Gym built in 1938
Clark Street class rooms built in 1939
Media Center built in 1961
Another reason I don't feel sorry for district 241 is that they claimed the old high school cost to much to operate; what most people never heard though is that the new building is consuming almost twice as much money to operate.
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hockeyplayer
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2007,11:31 pm |
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My point with that last point was not to debate the history of the old High School. Maybe i should've just left it at the place was old and needed to be replaced. Would that make people happier?
Dinomac brings up some great points. It doesn't matter who everyone is mad at, we need to focus on our future. Frankly, the message that this community sends to our youth is that you are much better off taking your education and moving somewhere else with it than coming back to Albert Lea. Why would anyone want to start a family here knowing that the quality of education is going so far downhill so fast?
I look at this vote as being an opportunity for a fresh start. Let's start building this community around strong schools.
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