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cea 
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,2:27 am |
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Yes, but if they didn't replace the old high school they woulden't be in this situation to start with.
At one time Albert Lea did have a strong school system and without jobs; no matter what, the people you want to stick around arn't goign to.
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Sher-Wood
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,4:31 am |
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| Quote (hockeyplayer @ Aug. 21 2007,10:23pm) | Go ahead, vote no. Watch students that want to do well in life move to owattonna, rochester, etc. Sometimes we have to look at these students as future leaders. Personally, I think that this is the best way to spend our money. Don't blame the school board for the courthouse. We DID need a new High School. That old place was going on 100 years. The new high school is a state of the art facility and a spot for Albert Lea to start growing.
I think that cutting sports would be an awful thing for everyone. Not only would kids not be able to play but what would the many people do on Friday nights in the fall? What would people do on Tuesday and Thursday nights in the winter without hockey games?
Crime rate would also skyrocket. Sports are the things that hold many of these student athletes together. Without sports, they'd have nothing and it is proven that drugs and alcohol would become more widely used.
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Great post hockey player. I agree with you. Albert Lea is plump full of negitive liberal people, that do not want things to change. They all think they are going to go broke over spending a few extra dollars a year.
Lets keep the money in A.L. if the referendum does not pass the money will only go to another school district who DID have there referendum pass.
Lets think about this people! 
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Sunkissed
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,8:33 am |
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Good post medic!! Yes when they come with that little camera that will raise taxes, and the bridge st project another needless tax add on. If I were a student I would have fire behind my heels getting the hell out of this town. Voting "yes" will not change that sorry to all of you that have that pipe dream. In fact i have a feeling it will be the other way around. If the vote does go threw then many people will be moving to more affordable towns with jobs so they can pay the taxes. I for one won't be sticking around. Can't afford to stay even if I wanted to. Taxes are just way to deep here and don't seem to make much difference what they spend the money on. People are not moving to albert lea becuase of the new school, or the pretty lights down main st, or the new court house. I think we need to get the "if we build it, they will come" dream out of our heads and use the money towards things that really need it.
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Whiskero
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,8:58 am |
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Good post Sunkissed!
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medic
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,3:33 pm |
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We did build it and no one came!!!!!!!!!! Now what, tax us more? ?
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,3:51 pm |
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| Quote (Sher-Wood @ Aug. 23 2007,4:31am) | | Albert Lea is plump full of negitive liberal people, |
Look like you need to find a dictionary and look up the meaning of Liberal and conservative. There are plenty of Liberals in town that support a referendum for our school. district.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,4:07 pm |
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It's the helmut, MM. Look at Sher-woods helmut. 
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,4:25 pm |
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| Quote | There are plenty of Liberals in town that support a referendum for our school. district.
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Yep, goes with the territory. Liberals never met a tax they didn't like!  
Just kidding, but when you leave yourself wide open like that.....I couldn't help it.
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scorenix
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,5:29 pm |
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It's not an issue of Liberal or conservative, it's an issue of providing the best education given the financial resources. And if the referendum doesn't pass, are you content with the level of education that will be provided? I personally believe, and it is my opinion, that the quality of education will be quite low. And that will be a detriment to Albert Lea.
There are those who protest the new school by saying they said it would bring jobs to Albert Lea. A great school system will make it more amenable, but, a new school cannot economically develop. That is a burden placed upon the city, the county, elected officials, unelected officials (including the unelected and supposedly city proposed ALEDA members). They have failed us, not the school district.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2007,5:50 pm |
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You are correct, it is not liberal and conservative.
How about trying this idea?
People are being asked to vote "All or Northing" on the referendum. How about asking the question like we would on this Forum. Something like:
"If we are to maintain the level of class offerings we have today, we will need to cut expenses $2 million OR raise taxes $2 Million. Here are ideas for trimming expenses. Please rank them.
(Need some help here--can anybody copy and paste the budget cutting ideas from the school board, found at http://albertlea.k12.mn.us/district/2008-09_Budget_Reduction_Ideas.pdf
"Alternatively, would you vote for an increased tax of"
A. Nothing
B. $500,000
C. $1,000,000
D. $1,500,000
E. $2,000,000
We need to give people a choice of cuts or increased taxes, WHAT cuts should be made, and listen to what is important to the local people.
It would take the debate away from the sacharrin but ill-defined "It's for the Children" and "It's for the community"--and on the other side, "cut administration".
I realize that we have a Representative Democracy--where we elect people to express our wishes--but that isn't working for the schools any more--people feel they have no input, and are disenfranchised and disconnected from the decision making process--that a cabal of the "right" people make decisions for them.
MOST elections give more than two choices for the voter to consider--why not a referendum? I believe that the referendum is going nowhere until people feel they have a voice in how their money is spent--and a direct poll, or multiple-choice referendum will fulfill that need.
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