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Posted on: Feb. 04 2004,11:32 am |
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No, you both are wrong, you are talking about the proposed 2% tax.
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jimhanson 
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Posted on: Feb. 04 2004,11:42 am |
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If 2% is good, 10% would be even better! You say "that will make taxpayers WARDS OF THE STATE"? That's even better--look at how people in the large metro areas vote--all "blue"! Don't pass up this opportunity to be just like the BIG CITIES--dependent on government!  (sarcasm)
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2004,8:31 am |
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The city requested that the county board pass a resolution stating that the board is in support of the city's quest for the 1/2%. Dorman needs to move quickly on this bill in this legislative session.
Not only did the county board not pass this resolution in support of the city, they changed their next meeting to the 23rd of this month. That pushes it back from two weeks to three before the board could possibly try to pass it again.
SORRY GUYS!
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2004,5:54 pm |
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What was the reason given for not giving any support? I guess I can't say they were out of line until I know why they did not want to support it.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2004,6:35 pm |
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Belshan asked if the resolution, as proposed, was for bringing it to the Legislature to lobby for the ability to hold a referendum, or if it was in support of the sales tax initiative. Gabrielson repeatedly asked Mullenbach what language he wanted to use--Mullenbach kept replying "that we are in favor of it". There never was a sense of what they were in favor OF.
Belshan cut through the muddle by stating (paraphrase) "I think it is out of line for us as a County Board to get involved with this".
I think he was right--this is a City decision--the referendum, if allowed will allow voting only by CITY residents. The County Board SHOULD NOT become involved.
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 03 2004,6:56 pm |
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Sounds reasonable. I guess I would have stayed out of it too. Rep Dornan is pushing to make it the right of all cities to decide local sales tax without interference from St. Paul, as it is in most states. I support him in this.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 04 2004,9:36 am |
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The board wanted to support the sales tax but there were only 3 commissioners there because Springborg was at a conference and Mathiason had to leave for a family emergency. So when it came down to a vote Behrends and Mullenbach voted in favor of it and Belshan abstained. When Belshan abstained they no longer had a quorom and the resolution couldn't pass on only 2 votes.
I'm guessing there are plenty of angry sales tax supporters in town. But they don't have anything to worry about, when the lockstep four are all at the next meeting the resolution will pass 4 to 1
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cwolff
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Posted on: Mar. 04 2004,11:15 am |
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Mr. Tarzan, I totally agree that it should be left up to the each city to determine if they want to raise their sales tax, with of course a vote from the citizens of those cities. But I think if it was left up to the cities, and Albert Lea passed a 1/2% sales tax to raise $1.5 million per year to dredge the lake, Albert Lea would loose some leverage when asking for more LGA funds. I mean dredging the lake before the upper reaches of the watershed are restored to keep the sediments in place is a waste of money! If Albert Lea has money to waste on dredging then why would they need more money for LGA? Maybe the watershed has waken up and now wants the 1/2 percent to fix the problem and not treat the symptoms.
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repdan
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Posted on: Mar. 04 2004,11:51 am |
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Cwolff,
You may want to read the plan. Most people that the first and only step is to dredge. The work needs to start above the lakes.
You might think it would impact LGA but it does not, revenue from local options are not figured into the need formula.
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Madd Max
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Posted on: Mar. 04 2004,2:50 pm |
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repdan
Is there a website that has the plan posted on it? If so could you please post. 
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