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Post Number: 81
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repdan
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,1:47 pm |
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One interesting thing, if you read the STrib piece and Abrams comments you might be surprised to find he always pushs for an increase in the cap in local school excess levies. Right now there is a cap of about $800 a kid, but the are a handfull of districts that are allowed to be above the cap and have levies over $1000 and in the case of Hopkins almost $2000 per student.
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Post Number: 82
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,1:58 pm |
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Abrams must be tough to work with. He's a smarta$$, he isn't nearly as witty as he thinks he is and he apparently wouldn't cross party lines to save his life. He's just the kind of person that neither party needs.
Also he's completely wrong about the auto lease tax issue. No matter what he says it's a shift at best and will solve no long term problems and most likely hurt the lease business.
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Post Number: 83
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repdan
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Posted on: Mar. 24 2004,8:49 am |
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Thanks for the link to the Tribune on the budget.
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Post Number: 84
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cwolff
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2004,12:57 pm |
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H.F No. 2705, as introduced: 83rd Legislative Session (2003-2004) Posted on Mar 2, 2004
1.1 A bill for an act 1.2 relating to sales and use taxes; authorizing the city 1.3 of Albert Lea to impose a sales tax. 1.4 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA: 1.5 Section 1. [CITY OF ALBERT LEA; SALES AND USE TAX.] 1.6 Subdivision 1. [SALES AND USE TAX 1.7 AUTHORIZED.] Notwithstanding Minnesota Statutes, section 1.8 477A.016, or any other provision of law, ordinance, or city 1.9 charter, the city of Albert Lea may, by ordinance, impose a 1.10 sales and use tax of one-half of one percent for the purposes 1.11 specified in subdivision 2. The provisions of Minnesota 1.12 Statutes, section 297A.99 govern the imposition, administration, 1.13 collection, and enforcement of the tax authorized under this 1.14 subdivision. 1.15 Subd. 2. [USE OF REVENUES.] The proceeds of the tax 1.16 imposed under this section shall be used to pay for lake 1.17 improvement projects as detailed in the Shell Rock River 1.18 watershed plan. 1.19 Subd. 3. [REFERENDUM.] If the Albert Lea City Council 1.20 proposes to impose the tax authorized by this section, the 1.21 question of imposing the tax must be submitted to the voters at 1.22 the next general election. 1.23 Subd. 4. [TERMINATION OF TAXES.] The taxes imposed under 1.24 this section expire at the earlier of (1) ten years after the 2.1 taxes are first imposed, or (2) when the city council first 2.2 determines that the amount of revenues raised to pay for the 2.3 projects under subdivision 2, shall meet or exceed the sum of 2.4 $15,000,000. Any funds remaining after completion of the 2.5 projects may be placed in the general fund of the city. 2.6 [EFFECTIVE DATE.] This section is effective the day after 2.7 compliance with the governing body of the city of Albert Lea 2.8 with Minnesota Statutes, section 645.021, subdivision 3. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post Number: 85
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,8:27 am |
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It seems to me, that channel 6 is being fed statistics. Kind of like our Tribune, just report what they are told to.
We forum posters are obviously the obsessed minority around here. The city is 80% in favor of the tax and we are 90% against. How did TV6 get their info from? The city council? Chamber? Watershed board? Hmmmm.
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Post Number: 86
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,8:45 am |
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You need to educate the media before you can educate the public.
What was the point of spending all that money on that study if you're just going to ignore the results and make up your own numbers? Didn't the council chose the more expensive study because it would have a more professional look? Who's looking at it? When it came back with numbers they didn't expect, it all but disappeared.
Next time they should save the money and just make up the lies from the start.
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Post Number: 87
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hoosier
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,8:50 am |
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LOL @ Maddog, was thinking the same thing. Where did they get the 80 percent figure? But if i am asking the questions, I can get bout any answer I want. Its kinda like the tooth paste commercial, you know, the one where they say 4 out of 5 dentists recommend brushing with this brand. Come to find out, they asked if it was better to use there brand, or not brush at all. Im sure it went something like this. If we were to pass a 1/2 percent sales tax, would you be in favor of using it to clean up the lakes? Yes! I dont believe they just came out and asked, Are you in favor of the tax? Samething with the library study. They dont ask if you need a new library, they ask if one were to be built, where would you like to see it? But 80 percent? Anyone that thinks 80 percent of the people in A.L. are going to vote for this, I have 100 dollars that says it aint gonna happen. Not only will it not pass with 80 percent in favor, but it wont pass at all. Sorry, but i cant vote for this, not knowing what the watershed board will do in the future with taxes. It just seems to me that we are making another obstacle to people and business wanting to locate here, and thats more taxes. The watershed board lost my support when their first order of business was to decide to pay themselves for being on the board. They went from community activists to people with their hands in my pocket, mostly for their own gain.
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Post Number: 88
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farouk
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,9:01 am |
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How come does the media have such different numbers on their poll than are showen here. Word coming out is over 80% want this 1/2% tax. Those of us here must be out of the mainstream!
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Post Number: 89
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,9:20 am |
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My guess is somebody in that group of supporters that went to the St. Paul yesterday is a manipulative liar and gave Sarah Colbert that number.
Can you think of anyone that has lied to a local reporter about the sales tax support before?
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Post Number: 90
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,10:09 am |
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hoosier Quote | Im sure it went something like this. If we were to pass a 1/2 percent sales tax, would you be in favor of using it to clean up the lakes? Yes!
| If you read back on this thread after the survey was complete, one of our members on this forum was contacted. Don't remember who off the top of my head, I think it was one of the Lisa' on here. The survey went kinda like this, "which would you prefer, having a local 1/2% option tax or would you rather have your property tax increased."
Erdman, Erdman, he's my pal; if he gets this one done, he can go straight to "hall."
-------------- Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
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