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collector 
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,8:03 pm |
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Again Sparks gets blamed for selling it for 1 dollar and maybe buying it back. Where are the real facts? WHO SOLD IT? My understanding it was all the school district, not the city. Who put it up for sale? Who hired the realtor? Who finalized the deal? Wasn't it the school district alone? I am not a fan of Sparks, but give it up when he wasn't the one who started this whole mess or the rumors that started this thread. Like a lot of the threads it is all page after page of rumor. Check out the topics. Accident by Trails anyone know what happened? There is real factful piece. Is that the best news we can find? Or how about the posts that Culvers is coming, then some other truthsayer says no it isn't coming. Arbys is coming, but wont say where. Old Navy? For Gods sake get some facts and talk intelligently. Kind of like Roseanne Roseanna Danna talking intelligently and then whent he truth comes out she always said "Never mind". That is similar to the posts here. Once someone with real knowledge gives the facts, most of the rumor mongers stop posting about that topic and move to the next one.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,8:38 pm |
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Here's where the rumors of the damage started. It's from an article in the Albert Tribune about a council meeting.
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The building, which as been vacant for more than four years, was sold to a Twin Cities developer. The building was sold for $1 in hopes a new owner would utilize it to the benefit of the community, according to City Manager Paul Sparks.
But he has not and weather and under-use has led to its demise.
Councilor Jeff Fjelstad walked through the building about a year ago and observed broken glass, mold and a ruined stage, he said.
Recently, windows have been broken and people have built fires inside, Sparks said.
The city's options include buying the building back but they would probably lose money in the deal.
"(The developer) has been vague about how much he wants," Sparks said.
Or they could try to gain the right to demolish it, which could include taking legal action, according to City Attorney Steve Schwab. A similar process was used to take down the deteriorated Farmland Foods building last year
building deterioration concerns city council
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,8:40 pm |
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Your argument is self-defeating collector. Why should we listen to you then, by your own argument? This threads starter said that Feldstedt said, that should be good enough. Who is cea? I never heard of him before today. He might be the guy that bought the building for a dollar. You might be Sparks. I don't know. That is the fun of a forum. You have to sort it out and see what you believe. This is not a legitimate place of news often, but it can be when no one else reports what is happening. BBS boards, always have been this way, and always will be.
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rosebudinal
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,9:46 pm |
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The best that the Tribune could come up with today for a headline was to resurrect the 10 commandments removal or possibly of it happening from Central Park. It was like they were inviting someone, anyone to say that they were offended by it. Like we don't have enough controversy in this bump in the road town.
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cea
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,9:52 pm |
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My intent was not to muddy the waters about city government.
I was just a little disturbed about how people will take any information they can get and twist it until it is the worst possible scenario. It is at that point that any government body almost has to take action. If I held a seat on the counsel and people were calling me; reporting all of these rumors to me, I too would believe it.
The point I am making is, I am not about to point a finger at the city leaders or the landowner. The landowner has good intentions for the building/property/community but everyone is giving him a bad name as well. The city seems to only be representing the people that elected them into office.
That’s my $0.02 worth for today.
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2004,9:57 pm |
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I suspect collector was one of the first to jump on the WMD bandwagon as well and still believes we'll find weapons of mass destruction buried in the desert... 
 
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cea
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Posted on: Mar. 24 2004,4:49 am |
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After rereading this whole topic again, I came across very harsh.... Sorry about that.
P.s. I am not Mr. Sparks either 
I'm just a person with a dream to own my own business.
If you want you can call me.... I'm always looking for advice, comments, and suggestions (641) 590-0034
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Posted on: Mar. 24 2004,6:27 am |
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| Quote (cea @ Mar. 24 2004,4:49:am) | | After rereading this whole topic again, I came across very harsh.... Sorry about that. |
I've read all of your posts so far cea, I don't think you're being harsh. Maybe being blunt, but thats okay, most people on here are.
That looks like a Joice, Iowa phone number. Are you looking to start a business on our side of the border?
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collector
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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,9:35 am |
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I don't argue with the fact it happened. I argue with the fact of WHO sold the building? Because a quote appears that Sparks says it was sold to a developer for $1 doesn't mean he did it. I also point to the fact that someone again starts rumor that the building is crumbling and falling down. Was it true? Then we all jump on the bandwagon and curse everyone about the shape of the building and what a disgrace. I agree. Just be accurate before spending 4 pages of rumor. In those 4 pages of rumor, what solution was presented? And no Minnow, I don't believe there were WMD and I don't support that effort. Crazy as it seems, I agree in theory with you on many things. Not always crazy (well, maybe a little crazy) about your choice of words, but your theory is not bad. That is the purpose of the forum, agree, disagree, whatever, but do it respectfully. We all have our opinions. Mine is usually not the same as others. Lets sling mud in the right direction. I think others can admit that many times the posts are vicious rumor and people jump on it. BBS from the beginning was not designed to be a place to hash over rumors. Make it serious. Other posts are serious and are good. Keep the crap out.
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The Advocate
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Posted on: Mar. 27 2004,10:38 am |
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Collector, I have to agree with you that I like the information and not the suppositions of others. Go to the Backroom Deals on this site for some real journalistic explorations. Liberal has done an excellent job of uncovering alledged wrong-doings and possible corruption at the City level, any newspaper reporter in this country could not have done a more comprehensive investigative job. You will find, Collector that there are actual E-mails straight from the main players and I personally would love to know how Paul Sparks is going to get out of this one. Rumors and innuendos are not in this post as the information is either on the record via the City Council meeting or written down in E-mails.
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