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Post Number: 21
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Clovis
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,8:06 pm |
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Such a shame. The Eiffel Tower is beautiful in its own way, but I prefer Bretagne, Normandie, and Provence. Plus, Hitler blocks the nice panorama from the Trocadero.
-------------- On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. --Antoine de St-Exupéry
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Post Number: 22
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Clovis
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,8:07 pm |
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And was that a "yes, I'll help" or "no, I'd rather not help" with the ALHS project, minnow fan?
-------------- On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. --Antoine de St-Exupéry
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Post Number: 23
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BS Fighter
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,8:23 pm |
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Quote (Clovis @ Feb. 13 2004,6:12:pm) | nor will complaining about bad mistakes in the past. |
That's BS Clovis. Complaining loudly is the only weapon BS Fighters have against a very inept and idiotic local government that consistently does stupid things like selling a building to a unknown outsiders trusting that person to do the right thing. BS Fighter says "Sweep them out of office, and start fresh" Maybe an IQ test should be required of all candidates first.
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Post Number: 24
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Clovis
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,8:26 pm |
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I meant simply that complaining alone does no good. You can complain all you want to someone, but you'd also better have a good plan for solving the problem.
But I agree with you, B.S. Fighter. The locals should have gotten in writing what the buyers were planning to do with the building rather than trusting the buyers' "good nature."
-------------- On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. --Antoine de St-Exupéry
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Post Number: 25
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,8:42 pm |
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"You can complain all you want to someone, but you'd also better have a good plan for solving the problem."
---->That's like saying the defendent in a criminal case must not only prove he didn't do it, he must prove who did!
We are paying them to take care of this stuff. Now you're saying we must do their work too...
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Post Number: 26
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Clovis
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,8:47 pm |
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But if you want the government to take actions that are significantly different from their past actions, then you may have to do a little legwork.
If you don't, then you leave it up to them to continue in the half-assed manner of governing against which you rail so heartily and loudly. You're paying the money to support the officials, and you have the right and the OBLIGATION to speak out and present plans of action if you do not agree with their patterns of action.
-------------- On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. --Antoine de St-Exupéry
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Post Number: 27
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 14 2004,1:46 pm |
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Quote | I don't fault the school district or the city on this one. They employed a regional and a local real estate firm to market the building, who advertised the property. |
You may not fault them, but I do. Look, they paid this real estate firm close to $25,000 if I remember correctly, and yes there were offers (I myself even offered a $1 but they did not like the terms I wanted). They let the building go without any clue as to what the buyer was going to do, other than gut the thing for anything worth salvaging. Before the building was sold, I was throwing out ideas left and right about a community center, library and beautiful auditorium but like anything else in this town, all of it fell on deaf ears. Now the building has suffered from neglect and a buyer who for $1 came in and stripped anything of value from it and is basically giving the finger back to the city. If it ends up that the city has to take it back and deal with it, there better be a lawsuit against the current 'owner' and any other idiot involved in this deal (real estate broker, and the city-school district individuals who approved this scam!)
-------------- An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.-James A. Michener Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.-Albert Einstein Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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Post Number: 28
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farouk
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2004,8:01 am |
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cpu, if you still have your buck, I've got 2 Canadian taped to the door of the frig that I would donate. Maybe we could develope a "smoke free zone" in the building. Hell I bet their are plenty of adults that would pay to relive the memories of smoking a quick one in the johns of that building.
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Post Number: 29
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2004,4:07 pm |
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It sure was a pretty school when they closed it. I did not understand it then, and I don't now. Oh, well, water under the bridge. My old school was older than this one and I went back to visit and it is still going strong today. I thought it was sad that people with financial interests in the new school, mounted such a strong campaign for it under the guise of the town becoming irrelevant if we did not build one, scaring the population into buying a new one. There are a lot of older schools in the state doing just fine. Now it is a mess, and it needs tearing down, and I don't think that any official that was in office, or working for this city when all of that occurred, in particular the $1.00 sale, should still be here working or serving and I hope the citizens of AL finally say, that is enough, get them all out of here
-------------- Be not simply good, be good for something-Henry David Thoreau
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Post Number: 30
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 16 2004,5:27 pm |
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Quote | cpu, if you still have your buck, I've got 2 Canadian taped to the door of the frig that I would donate. |
Only problem now is that after the current 'owner' gutted the place for anything worth stripping out, that place would need buckets of money just to get it back to the condiction it was in when the city-school district sold it for $1. (-$24,999 after real estate broker fees) I simply can not imagine the stupidity (then and now) that those responsible seem to have when it comes to that building. Like I said before, that place was not in the 'terrible shape' that everyone made it sound when they decided that they needed a new school building. The city should simply take it back and refurb it for thier new library as well as a community center with possible office space. I mean, what does it really say about our city and our leaders when we can not even do anything about the old school? If ANY taxpayer cash goes to demolish this building, or to try to forclose and turn around and sell it to another shady 'developer', then the lawsuits will start to fly!
Still, I would like to hear what people would like to see done with the space, anyone have some positive ideas?
-------------- An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.-James A. Michener Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.-Albert Einstein Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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