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GEOKARJO 
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,7:01 pm |
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I have a problem with exposing my children to smoking. I hope that they choose not to' when they do choose.
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,7:48 pm |
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Are you serious! LOL 
"Quote (minnow @ Feb. 19 2004,5:26:pm)
So, if I choose not to be around smoking...then I should choose not to go in bar (place that serves drinks) ...er...huh?
I was useing an analogy minnow. Replace the words "bar" & "serves drinks" with, "allows smoking". Capeesh?
Sorry, I didn't realize this was to complicated for you.
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OK, I replaced the words. WHERE ARE THERE SMOKING JOINTS, smoking dens, smoking establishments you MORON?
Yer brain dead man...
LOL
You have no right to effect others with your drug taking, You're just rationalizing because you know it's difficult for you to have drink and not wanna pull out a drug delivery device and light up. You have no right to pollute public spaces with your drug of choice, yet at the same time tell others they can't smoke cannabis in their own homes. Can't you see how deeply sick and twisted that stinkin' thinkin' is?
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,9:41 pm |
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| Quote (minnow fan @ Feb. 19 2004,6:47:pm) | whose health is more adversely effected? The answer is mine or the non-smokers, you polluted my air which I require to breathe.
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I wasn't talking about health, I was refering to a person's right to choose what business they go to. If you don't like the smokey bar's, go to a non-smoking restaurant that serves alcohol. In other words, boycott smoking establishments, and use more strictly non-smoking ones. I know their's plenty of seats open in them, because they're business dropped as soon as they stopped allowing smoking!
Minnow has a valid point, huh? He's been focusing on name calling with me lately. When the vapor clears out of his room, maybe he can start doing more... 
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,10:03 pm |
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Private property rights distinguish our country from most others. As we throttle those rights, we head step by step to a society where a maniac can take control "for our own good". Let people do what they wish in their business, (and homes too minnow) as long as it is between consenting adults, without harming children. You want to have no smoking bars and smoking bars, fine, but a total ban on public smoking, way too far. It is bad enough we have so many unfair laws, let's not make more, (or champion them just to get even minnow, though I think you are just poking people with a stick) because soon we will need permission for everything, or a permit at least. Why is it that we send people to fight for freedom while we regulate that same freedom to oblivion?
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,10:05 pm |
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Let me get this straight. Here you are a drug addict, actually addicted to a much more toxic and dangerous substance than cannabis, yet still have the sheer nerve and gall to say idiotic crap like this!? "When the vapor clears out of his room, maybe he can start doing more"
I'm sorry sir...but you ARE indeed a first class moron. That's not name calling that's calling a spade a spade.
Nowhere in the constitution does it provide for you to smoke your drugs in indoor spaces where it affects others. Outside..fine. Your own home...fine.
Other folks (non addicted addicts) have a right to have a drink in any bar of their choosing without some loser lighting cancer sticks in the same room. If it's a outdoor bar...fine.
Get da picture?
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minnow fan
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,10:20 pm |
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| Quote (GEOKARJO @ Feb. 19 2004,7:01:pm) | | I have a problem with exposing my children to smoking. I hope that they choose not to' when they do choose. |
That is strange since you find no tie between smoking and health concerns or perhaps you really know the truth but don't want to get off your high horse to admit it.
Well Marlboro man, maybe you should cough up some black lung cookies and ride that high horse off into the sunset.
-As for your kids making the choice not to smoke, I am sure they will choose not to. Kids these days are much smarter and well informed then kids in your day. Actually, many kids are smarter and more informed then half the people posting on this board.
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minnow fan
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Posted on: Feb. 19 2004,10:31 pm |
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Private property rights...
OK, since you guys love to pick on Jeff Fjelstad, I am wondering...
Jeff owns his bar, it is private property, right?
Why can't Jeff allow prostitution in his bar, within the boundaries of his property? I mean, it is his property right? And in theory, it wouldn't really hurt anyone.
OK, how about this one...
Let's say I own an apartment building. I don't rent to African Americans. It is my property, why can't I do what ever I want? It is my property right?
Why, because there are laws to protect the majority of the people and to attempt to maintain some fairness. An anti smoking ban would protect the majority of the people. And if your arguement against the ban is because 'we already have enough laws or enough freedoms taken away', get real.
Might as well of said 'we don't need women voting, we already have enough people voting'.
Again, where in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution does it ensure a right to smoke?
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ICU812
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2004,8:13 am |
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| Quote (minnow fan @ Feb. 19 2004,10:31:pm) | Jeff owns his bar, it is private property, right?
Why can't Jeff allow prostitution in his bar, within the boundaries of his property? I mean, it is his property right? And in theory, it wouldn't really hurt anyone. |
Is Prostitution legal now?
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Angel
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2004,11:29 am |
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Nowhere in the constitution does it provide for you to smoke your drugs in indoor spaces where it affects others.
The consitution doesn't state I can't either.
Other folks(non addicted addicts) have a right to have a drink in any bar of their choosing without some loser lighting a cancer sticks in the same room.
Thats right Minnow nonsmokers have choices. Smokers have choices. There are restaruants that don't allow smoking at all. That gives people a choice to dine away from smokers allready. Just like people have stated before. These are private business and the government/county should not be able to tell a private busnessman who he can or cannot allow in his/her establishment. Let alone an owner that smokes they can't smoke in their own business.
By the way Minnow we are talking about a legal drug here not your drug of choice which happens to be illegal.
So $hit or get of the pot allready. 
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minnow fan
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Posted on: Feb. 20 2004,11:36 am |
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| Quote (GEOKARJO @ Feb. 19 2004,10:25:am) | | Almost all restaurants nowadays choose to have separate smoking and nonsmoking sections |
Having a non-smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool.
As for the prostitution reference, my point was just because you own a piece of property does not mean you have a right to do whatever you want to with it.
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