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Tassie 
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Posted on: Jul. 31 2004,2:30 pm |
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You smokers may smoke all you want as long as I don't have to breath the effects of your habit. The same goes for people who wish to drink or smoke pot. Your rights end when they infringe upon my rights to breath clean air and my right to drive on a highway and not be endangered by your inability to drive after you have enjoyed your "rights"
I am a former smoker and drinker so please don't tell me I don't understand your "rights" and the arguments that you make to justify your addictions........
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: Jul. 31 2004,7:35 pm |
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But that's not what you do. You jail a pot smoker for smoking in his own home. Then charge him with a felony and seize everthing out of his home(including his home) for forfeiture.
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Tassie
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Posted on: Jul. 31 2004,8:08 pm |
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Then wouldn't common sense tell you that you shouldn't use pot? Be it right or wrong that pot is illegal. If you want the laws changed get active politically, organize, raise hell, do what ever it takes. Maybe you'll be successful, maybe not. Or you can say it's not worth it....................Please do something or quit bitchin'.........
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: Jul. 31 2004,9:58 pm |
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Medicinal users can't be public activists for obvious reasons...are you serious?! 
People smoke and drink which anyone can agree are for more addictive and dangerous substances yet we don't destroy their lives over it. Some people need cannabis for various medicinal reasons and thus it shouldn't be included in 'schedule 1' with meth. It's barbaric in this day in age when civilized countries jail cannabis users and steal all their assets. The answer lies with voters like who must not rule out libertarian candidates and views.
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Tassie
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Posted on: Aug. 01 2004,7:05 am |
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So what you are saying is that pot should be OK for medicinal users only? I don't have a bit of a problem with that! When pot is used by persons to increase their appetite during chemo or to give pain relief during their final months of life it should be considered a drug and given by prescription. Cannabis is no worse than codeine or morphine when used only under doctor supervision..What I do disagree with is the statement you made to the effect that smoking and drinking are far more addictive than cannibas. Have you or someone you know ever tried quiting smokin' dope completely? Be honest. I have seen potheads go through the same type of withdrawel as us former smokers and boozers.
Could it be that the fact that we could easily grow our own pot and we could bypass the drug companies the reason pot is illegal???You are aware that drug companies have well paid lobbiests and contribute heavily to many public figures? Maybe if you would offer congress the power to put a tax on pot? ?
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: Aug. 01 2004,8:16 am |
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Have you ever heard of any one death from cannabis? Now, on the other hand how many from cigs and alcohol?  It should be a no brainer. Aspirin kills more people that pot???
How can you really be that brainwashed? No worse than opiate narcotics?! You need to get an education girlfriend. 
"Be honest. I have seen potheads go through the same type of withdrawel as us former smokers and boozers." Here you even compare pot to real addictive substances like tobacco and nicotine. Trouble is...is you only ruin your health when you don't quit the two hard ones. It's called education...get some.
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Mamma
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Posted on: Aug. 01 2004,11:07 am |
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If a pot smoker is sitting in his house smoking and they break the door down and charge him with a felony and seize everything he owns.....you can bet he is doing more than smoking a joint. You don't get charged with a felony for smoking a joint. And, once again...when someone dies of lung cancer they don't say what they were smoking. How do you know that those people that are dying from lung cancer aren't pot smokers? I'm going with Tassie on this one. It's getting really tiresome listening to a grown man whine. You don't seem to want to do anything to change the situation except whine about it.
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Tassie
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Posted on: Aug. 01 2004,11:17 am |
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Keep smoking pot, little boy,and your friends will wonder where your mind went if they aren't already. You obviously haven't spent any time at a treatment center and watched a pothead sit in a stupor for the first week. After that the main thing that they notice is how clear their mind has become. As for the statement that pot doesn't kill haven't you heard about smokin' dope and driving? It does kill when you're high and drive into a family minivan loaded with kids!
I will not comment any more about your addiction because it is obvious that you are in complete denial and anything anyone says will not be believed by you
Fountain Centers may have a place for you if you wish to get help when you are ready. Good luck, you sure do need it!!
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: Aug. 01 2004,5:58 pm |
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"Keep smoking pot, little boy,and your friends will wonder where your mind went if they aren't already."
This displays your perfect ignorance. It's BOOZE that kills brain cells, not pot. Like I've already told you and I hate to have to keep repeating myself. You are brainwashed about pot and that statement proves it. "After that the main thing that they notice is how clear their mind has become" So... here you of course, must mean that "they" means EVERYONE, right? Of course...:laugh: Actually most chronic users will be even more confused and fuzzy after quitting for the first month or so.
Now for Momma,
"If a pot smoker is sitting in his house smoking and they break the door down and charge him with a felony and seize everything he owns.....you can bet he is doing more than smoking a joint"
Not really true. If a neighbor smells pot or even a "funny" smell and calls the police, a deputy will be asked to do a abandon property search. That means working with your garbage hauler to get your garbage. The hauler picks it up and flys around the corner where he hands it off to said deputy. They'll take it back to the law enforcement center and search it with a fine tooth comb. If they find any seeds stems or leaves, or even a few roaches or 1 empty baggie with the corner ripped off, it provides enough evidence to get a search warrant signed one of your local district judges. Unless one buys from a dealer and supports drug dealing which no one wants to do, he grows a few plants under lights.
That's enough for the cops to seize for forfeiture the house and it's entire contents, incuding your bank account and vehicle... I'm talking even your sunglasses and leather coats...EVERYTHING of value you've accumulated your entire life. Your items will be sold at sheriffs auction where the proceeds are split between the local police and the prosecutors office with 10% or so going to the state.
Don't believe me? This isn't some made up story. I'm that guy... 
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Mamma
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Posted on: Aug. 01 2004,9:15 pm |
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And that was exactly the point I was trying to make. You were not only using it, you were growing it. How are they to know that you didn't intend to sell it? If you truely do use pot as a medicine, why don't you go see a doctor and find something legal that will help you?
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