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1976?
1988?
1992?
1996?
2000?
2004?
2008?
2012?
That's sayin' a lot Botto :(


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Rand Paul on issues:
• Does not support stimulus spending during economic downturns
• Supports privatizing elements of Social Security
• Supports raising the retirement age
• Opposes bank bailouts
• Supports cutting corporate taxes
• Supports flat federal tax
• Does not support federal regulation of education
• Supports school choice
• Opposes affirmative action
• Does not support environmental regulations aimed at affecting climate change
• Does not support cap-and-trade programs to reduce greenhouse gases
• Opposes government-run health care and the Affordable Care Act (known as "Obamacare")
• Pro-life
• Believes states should be the ones to decide on same-sex marriage, not federal government
• Supports community drug treatment over federal enforcement of drug laws
• Supports medicinal marijuana
• Supports excluding industrial hemp from drug laws
• Supports 2nd Amendment rights
• Opposes limits on magazine size
• Wants more transparency of NSA surveillance
• Supports trials for Guantanamo detainees
• Supports cutting defense spending
• Opposes the Patriot Act
• Supports legal status, but not citizenship, for illegal/undocumented immigrants
• Opposes U.S. involvement in Syria


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Rand Paul on issues:
• Does not support stimulus spending during economic downturns
• Supports privatizing elements of Social Security
• Supports raising the retirement age
• Opposes bank bailouts
• Supports cutting corporate taxes
• Supports flat federal tax
• Does not support federal regulation of education
• Supports school choice
• Opposes affirmative action
• Does not support environmental regulations aimed at affecting climate change
• Does not support cap-and-trade programs to reduce greenhouse gases
• Opposes government-run health care and the Affordable Care Act (known as "Obamacare")
• Pro-life
• Believes states should be the ones to decide on same-sex marriage, not federal government
• Supports community drug treatment over federal enforcement of drug laws
• Supports medicinal marijuana
• Supports excluding industrial hemp from drug laws
• Supports 2nd Amendment rights
• Opposes limits on magazine size
• Wants more transparency of NSA surveillance
• Supports trials for Guantanamo detainees
• Supports cutting defense spending
• Opposes the Patriot Act
• Supports legal status, but not citizenship, for illegal/undocumented immigrants
• Opposes U.S. involvement in Syria

Except for one or two of these I see no problem, in fact I like most of them :thumbsup:

Two things,

What's your problem with the 2nd amendment you communist-socialist pig :dunno:

I notice you're up early on this fine Sunday morning, Saturday night corn hole league let out early?


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I have no problem with the second amendment.

I wish we could vote on the issues not the person or party.
Say to our appointed bureaucrat these are the issues we want
addressed, now you implement them.


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Say to our appointed bureaucrat these are the issues we want addressed, now you implement them.

Aww, isn't that cute?  :D

You want the system to work the way it proclaims to, and is supposed to.

Get behind the guys with the truckloads of cash, and get comfy, while you're at it. You're going to be waiting for a while...


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Rand Paul on issues:
• Does not support stimulus spending during economic downturns
• Supports privatizing elements of Social Security
• Supports raising the retirement age
• Opposes bank bailouts
• Supports cutting corporate taxes
• Supports flat federal tax
• Does not support federal regulation of education
• Supports school choice
• Opposes affirmative action
• Does not support environmental regulations aimed at affecting climate change
• Does not support cap-and-trade programs to reduce greenhouse gases
• Opposes government-run health care and the Affordable Care Act (known as "Obamacare")
• Pro-life
• Believes states should be the ones to decide on same-sex marriage, not federal government
• Supports community drug treatment over federal enforcement of drug laws
• Supports medicinal marijuana
• Supports excluding industrial hemp from drug laws
• Supports 2nd Amendment rights
• Opposes limits on magazine size
• Wants more transparency of NSA surveillance
• Supports trials for Guantanamo detainees
• Supports cutting defense spending
• Opposes the Patriot Act
• Supports legal status, but not citizenship, for illegal/undocumented immigrants
• Opposes U.S. involvement in Syria

Like SB I have to admit I like what I see, but don't agree with everything he supports.
At least his views are closer to what I want for our country than Mrs. Clintons!


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Say to our appointed bureaucrat these are the issues we want addressed, now you implement them.

Aww, isn't that cute?  :D

You want the system to work the way it proclaims to, and is supposed to.

Get behind the guys with the truckloads of cash, and get comfy, while you're at it. You're going to be waiting for a while...

In ancient Athens, every adult male citizen could attend every meeting of the assembly and did have a direct vote on almost every issue. That was not representative democracy, it was true democracy.

What we have is representative democracy, but I don’t feel it’s representative at all, my congressman doesn't  know me, I may have the ability to write him/her but the big money people have direct access and influence on issues.

Back in 1776 it may have been a necessity to install such a republic as we live under, time and distance would have made it a necessity for expediency. In today’s electronic world the need for representative government is questionable.

I don’t really believe it would function any better than what we have, we’d be barraged with political policy commercials year around, Fox news and AM propagandist would sway the weak minded with their lies, but big money could no longer buy our representatives outright.


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^^ and ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS propaganda.

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Back to Rand Paul he’s no Ron.
issue: Social Security: he’s a typical Republican on this important issue, he wants raise the retirement age, allow opting out, this guy has called Social Security a Ponzi scheme!

Social Security is one of the most important programs (our) Government ever put in play, it’s the equivalent of a defined benefit retirement program plus an insurance policy should anything happen to you on your way to retirement.

To replace this valuable program with a 401k type retirement is foolish we’d be cannon fodder for Wall Street sharks, that’s just plain stupid, countless millions of seniors will end up broke and truly overload taxpayer financed safety nets while wall street fat cats prosper.

This is just one of the reasons I’m a conservative Democrat!

Not a good way to start a campaign, messing with Social Security. Wall Street's track record does not exactly imbue us with a lot of trust, does it? I don't think people want their retirement monies in the hands of the credit default swap crowd.

I can't recall a more disappointing field of candidates...  :dunno:

My only retort to this would be that gov't does not exactly have a better track record of managing money either.  So do you trust your money to a bunch of self serving elected ass hats, or the self serving wall street hacks?  Personally, I guess I'd rather have the money in my hands and let me decide.

As for your last statement.  I couldn't agree more...


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Back to Rand Paul he’s no Ron.
issue: Social Security: he’s a typical Republican on this important issue, he wants raise the retirement age, allow opting out, this guy has called Social Security a Ponzi scheme!

Social Security is one of the most important programs (our) Government ever put in play, it’s the equivalent of a defined benefit retirement program plus an insurance policy should anything happen to you on your way to retirement.

To replace this valuable program with a 401k type retirement is foolish we’d be cannon fodder for Wall Street sharks, that’s just plain stupid, countless millions of seniors will end up broke and truly overload taxpayer financed safety nets while wall street fat cats prosper.

This is just one of the reasons I’m a conservative Democrat!

Not a good way to start a campaign, messing with Social Security. Wall Street's track record does not exactly imbue us with a lot of trust, does it? I don't think people want their retirement monies in the hands of the credit default swap crowd.

I can't recall a more disappointing field of candidates...  :dunno:

My only retort to this would be that gov't does not exactly have a better track record of managing money either.  So do you trust your money to a bunch of self serving elected ass hats, or the self serving wall street hacks?  Personally, I guess I'd rather have the money in my hands and let me decide.

As for your last statement.  I couldn't agree more...

You may be one of the few who could manage his money and save for retirement, but let’s not be delusional, how many of your coworkers do you know that live pay check to pay check? If they were given choice to opt out of Social Security they’d jump at it, and still live pay check to pay check without saving a cent for retirement.

We don’t have to go back may years to time before Social Security, when the elderly could no longer work they were quickly impoverished, dependent on children for survival and a few sparse government programs.

American’s for the most part are financially irresponsible!

The rightwing darling Ayn Rand, spent her life spouting individualism, Laissez-faire Government, saying she could manage her money and life! As she reached retirement age she quickly enrolled in both Social Security and Medicare, After a life of sucking on cigarettes she ended up with lung cancer.

This woman sold millions of copies of her rightwing dribble!


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