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Liberal 
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Posted on: Apr. 08 2015,10:30 pm |
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Seriously, what gave me away? Was it my proud long term support of Democrats. Or was it something else?
I'm a liberal that isn't stupid enough to believe that good is the enemy of great. So knowing I can't get a true liberal president elected I vote for candidate that most closely aligns with my liberal views.
You on the other hand are the first person I've ever met that proves the saying "If you stand for nothing you'll fall for anything". So I guess your cynical views combined with your belief in every conspiracy theory you've ever heard is nothing new.
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The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Liberal
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,4:43 pm |
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Democrats are smart enough to stand united for change instead of dividing our party between the extremes. If you see that as a bad thing then you obviously don't understand our type of government.
Instead of reading your crazy ass conspiracy sites take the time to read the greatest political sermon ever given. It's called A Short Treatise on Political Power, and of the true obedience which subjects our to kings and other civil governors, with an Exhortation to all true and natural English men.
http://www.constitution.org/cmt/ponet/polpower.htm
You can probably tell that Ponet has a long way of saying things but it's worth reading. When your done reading it tell me what good it does to waste your vote on a third party because the current candidate isn't great. Every election you take that one little bit of political power you have to change the way things are and you piss it away.
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The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,8:24 pm |
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And here's some light reading for you:
QUOTE After millions of dollars were pledged by the oil company to the Clinton Foundation Hillary changed her position on U.S.-Colombia trade pact.
By Nick Sorrentino on April 9, 2015
Seriously Democrats is Hillary Clinton really going to be your nominee? So she’s taken millions of dollars from the head of an oil company which has strong connections to the Colombian military, which also just happened to “round up” the striking workers of Pacific Rubiales, the company in question.
I mean, I get that she is a woman, and that she has name recognition, and that she has long been the presumed nominee. But guys, I may not agree with you on most things but this is an integrity thing. At least don’t throw in with someone who many of my friends on the “Left” would probably call a union busting, fossil fuels promoting, political profiteer if she wasn’t named Hillary Clinton. At least stand for something lefties – other than cronyism.
So tell me, are the UAW, the AFL-CIO, and the USW going to support a candidate for president who has taken millions and millions of dollars from a company (and its CEO) which has a history of busting unions at the point of a rifle?
Are they?
(From The International Business Times)
At the same time that Clinton’s State Department was lauding Colombia’s human rights record, her family was forging a financial relationship with Pacific Rubiales, the sprawling Canadian petroleum company at the center of Colombia’s labor strife. The Clintons were also developing commercial ties with the oil giant’s founder, Canadian financier Frank Giustra, who now occupies a seat on the board of the Clinton Foundation, the family’s global philanthropic empire.
The details of these financial dealings remain murky, but this much is clear: After millions of dollars were pledged by the oil company to the Clinton Foundation — supplemented by millions more from Giustra himself — Secretary Clinton abruptly changed her position on the controversial U.S.-Colombia trade pact. Having opposed the deal as a bad one for labor rights back when she was a presidential candidate in 2008, she now promoted it, calling it “strongly in the interests of both Colombia and the United States.” The change of heart by Clinton and other Democratic leaders enabled congressional passage of a Colombia trade deal that experts say delivered big benefits to foreign investors like Giustra.
Sorrento article
IBT article
So tell me again: What makes her a Democrat?
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Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,10:50 pm |
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What do you suggest she do about Labor Violations in countries around the world?
She's a conservative progressive like myself.. The majority of the clowns are located on the other side of reality, kinda like yourself.. 
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stardust14
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Posted on: Apr. 10 2015,2:07 am |
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Politics.
It's kinda like playing the arcade games at the FC Fair---over-priced, you know it's rigged, some cheesy scam guy in charge, high admittance fee to even enter the arena.
The political ducks are lined up once more, all with the same streak running down their plastic backbone---yellow. The public enters the arena to play political games not because of the same old useless prizes offered. It's entertainment whacking down the ducks, greasy unhealthy food, a portal to a world of make-believe...all compliments of the business community and media. Last duck standing is our leader. So long as we have places like Yemen, etc as comparisons we then can rationalize our folly.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Apr. 10 2015,7:04 am |
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Back to Rand Paul he’s no Ron.
issue: Social Security: he’s a typical Republican on this important issue, he wants raise the retirement age, allow opting out, this guy has called Social Security a Ponzi scheme!
Social Security is one of the most important programs (our) Government ever put in play, it’s the equivalent of a defined benefit retirement program plus an insurance policy should anything happen to you on your way to retirement.
To replace this valuable program with a 401k type retirement is foolish we’d be cannon fodder for Wall Street sharks, that’s just plain stupid, countless millions of seniors will end up broke and truly overload taxpayer financed safety nets while wall street fat cats prosper.
This is just one of the reasons I’m a conservative Democrat!
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Apr. 10 2015,7:25 am |
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(Expatriate @ Apr. 10 2015,7:04 am)
QUOTE Back to Rand Paul he’s no Ron.
issue: Social Security: he’s a typical Republican on this important issue, he wants raise the retirement age, allow opting out, this guy has called Social Security a Ponzi scheme!
Social Security is one of the most important programs (our) Government ever put in play, it’s the equivalent of a defined benefit retirement program plus an insurance policy should anything happen to you on your way to retirement.
To replace this valuable program with a 401k type retirement is foolish we’d be cannon fodder for Wall Street sharks, that’s just plain stupid, countless millions of seniors will end up broke and truly overload taxpayer financed safety nets while wall street fat cats prosper.
This is just one of the reasons I’m a conservative Democrat!
Not a good way to start a campaign, messing with Social Security. Wall Street's track record does not exactly imbue us with a lot of trust, does it? I don't think people want their retirement monies in the hands of the credit default swap crowd.
I can't recall a more disappointing field of candidates... 
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Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
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