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alcitizens 
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,10:15 am |
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I stand corrected, it was 124 acres at $10,000 per acre or $1,250,000.00 paid to George Dress in 2008 for the Sunset Extension..
http://www.cityofalbertlea.org/pdfs/07-28-08minutes.pdf
I wouldn't doubt I'll have a property tax increase of about $1000.00 per year for ten years..  Banquet Dinners for a few years.. 
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was1
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,10:30 am |
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So, is $10,000 per acre out of line for the property that was purchased? What again does that property purchase have to do with Virginia?
So, is there like 30 privately owned properties on Virginia? 30 at $10k total assessment including interest is only $300,000. Where does the other $1M come from to complete the project? I believe the estimated cost is in the $1.3M range.
"Banquet Dinners for a few years". What is that supposed to mean?
Once you do the rest of your homework on this and answer the other questions that were poised to you maybe then you’ll have enough information to understand.
Would you be this worked up if Virginia had been done instead of Frank? Are there no other streets in Albert Lea that are of similar condition?
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,10:48 am |
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Swamp Land.. You ask so many questions that you can't remember them all.. 
Part is paid with local cost sharing.. You need to do your homework and then get back to me.. I'm not here to answer your stupid questions..
Bring on some facts or shut the hell up..
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was1
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,11:00 am |
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The entire 124 acres was swamp? At the time of purchase did you look into it and find out how the sale price was determined?
So, for your 2 block, little used street the rest of the city is to pay for nearly 77% of the cost of the project?
I listed a number of infrastructure projects that were completed in Ward 6 over the years. There's facts. All you do is throw out nonsense. It seems facts are of little use to you.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,11:13 am |
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Everyone pays a portion of every project done.. Just like I'm paying for a portion of that 124 acres that I will never use..
Again, do your homework..
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was1
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,12:19 pm |
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Not sure what homework you want me to do.
Per City Assessment Policy - City (that would be everyone) pays for sanitary sewer, water main, and storm sewer replacements. I believe at least for the sanitary and the water main those costs come from a portion of your water and sewer bill. Sidewalks, curb & gutter and street surfacing (including granular base) is assessed based on age. The age of Virginia puts all those costs at 100% assessable. In addition you are assessed a portion of the road bed drain tile system, topsoil and seed/sod restoration, a portion of the engineering costs, etc. Policy also states that if due to poor soil conditions additional granular base is required that cost, along with necessary excavation costs, is assessed to the property owners. From what City Engineer Jahnke said about the soils, which could get real spendy.
Have you requested any of the information to get a better idea of the actual costs and what would be assessed to the residents? Perhaps Councilor Brooks realizes that the assessments would be very large on those residents and is looking out for them so that they do not get burdened by a huge financial commitment.
If you really want this project done I try getting the rest of the affected property owners to sign a petition requesting the project done. Gather them all up and go to the next City Council Meeting, present the petition and express your concern of getting this project done now, no more studies, no more maybes no more delays. Express the importance for the property owners to get this done. Then, if Councilor Brooks and Engineer Jahnke still push back and put up road blocks you can take them to task on the whys.
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,4:05 pm |
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With all the projects I listed I think it is hard pressed to say “the Ward has deteriorated during his 16 years in office.” “He votes continuously to fund multi-million dollar projects on the North side without anything in return for the people on the South side.” Well, maybe that’s because of all the projects I listed that occurred on the south side in years previous. Maybe it was time to spread the projects around to the other 5 Wards.
Why would Councilor Brooks not make it through his current term due to going to Jail as you stated on 3/26/15 at 1:38AM? What do you know that you are not telling us about Councilor Brooks? You do a lot of implying that he’s done something illegal.
Post after post of yours makes it sound like there has never been a project completed in Ward 6. Did you read the previous list? Have you lived in the Ward the last 15 years? Did you never see the construction taking place? Do you expect every block in Ward 6 to be completely reconstructed? How much of the $20M in debt you keep bringing up is from the projects that have occurred in Ward 6?
You posted on 3/27/15 “Reminds me of how Al ‘Minnow” Brooks would think while he’s getting a few extra dollars under the table to remain a quiet slouch that doesn’t bring up projects in his Ward for the City Council to vote on.” Again, you have any proof that Councilor Brooks is doing something illegal? Again, do you not realize the Millions of $ that have been spent in Ward 6?
I truly hope you gather up your neighbors on Virginia Place and all appear at the next council meeting and tell the council you want action. Tell them it’s time you get your street and underlying utilities reconstructed. Tell them you don’t care what it costs or how much your assessments will be you just want it done. And, I hope they do it so you can hopefully find some peace.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,8:47 pm |
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QUOTE Compliments of nzeroesc: Here is the specific page of the Capital Improvement Plan - Page 125 [PDF] noting the funding breakdown for Virginia Place as well as the construction proposal. http://www.cityofalbertlea.org/pdfs/2013-17CIP_web.pdf#page=125The city estimates $135000 in assessments. There are anywhere from 33-36 private assessable properties depending on if the city counts houses that do not have access or addresses on the street itself. There are 3 properties on the south end that have either Newton or 7th St addresses that are in question. Without taking into account the exact assessment equation which factors in linear feet, dividing by 35 gives us an assessment value average of $3557 per property. Assessment Policy http://www.cityofalbertlea.org/pdfs/AssessmentPolicy.pdfPer the assessment policy, there is a 10 year term for assessment values ranging from $2000-$10000. With an interest rate of 1-2% above bond, so lets just assume about 5% A $3500 assessment over 10 years comes to an assessable value of about $370 annually for 10 years. As I mentioned in a previous post, there are a fair amount of properties on that street that this dollar amount would double the property taxes for. Just something to be prepared for if you have an affected address.
This project should have been done many years ago.. If you can't get that through your little head, you are just as slow as Brooks on this project.. 
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