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was1 
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Posted on: May 21 2015,2:44 pm |
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Sorry you don't want any advice. Sounds like you got everything under control then.
"you and Randy. . ."' "you two. . ." Are you referring to me? I certainly hope not since you don’t know me.
Add to your list of questions/requests a full copy of the soil report that was completed for Virginia Place, trust me there is one and the ground water table is lower than 17 inches below the street surface.
You can reline a sewer without any street tear up as long as there are no collapsed sections. That is the beauty of trenchless pipe repair and replacement technology. You can use a cured in place pipe lining system and just pull the resin impregnated liner between two manholes, invert it, steam or hot water cure it and you basically have a new pipe. Or, you could use pipe bursting and even upsize the pipe. But you wouldn’t want to do this if there were service laterals connected to the main you are working on, that causes problems. You could even do some newer technology of spin grouting the existing pipe.
If you have two 10” pipes flowing into one manhole and the two pipes are at a 0.5% grade you have roughly a peak flow entering the manhole of 3.1CFS. If you have one 12” pipe leaving that manhole, at a 1% grade, that pipe has a capacity of 3.56CFS. I believe it is pretty standard practice to use a 12” concrete pipe as the smallest storm sewer pipe, even if one that large is not required. FYI – 2 10” pipes don’t equal 1 20” pipe. Hydraulic flow does not work that way. A 20”pipe at 0.5% grade can handle 9.8 CFS.
I recommend that you not ask what size pipes they are putting in for the storm sewer, or make your non engineered recommendations to them, and ask them what design year event they designed the storm sewer for (and what design year event the lift station is designed for). My guess is that they designed the storm sewer for a 10 year event. That is pretty standard practice for a residential street (I’ve even seen some places go as low as a 2 year event, which to me is just crazy). Larger used roadways typically are designed for a 20 or 25 year event. I would hope the lift station can handle a minimum 50 year event.
I don’t think it’s sad you want your questions and their responses recorded, I think it’s sad that it seems more like you what your 2 minutes of TV fame.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: May 21 2015,7:33 pm |
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Steve Jahnke answered every question and supplied me with the detailed feasibility report..
I would never say that I'm correct about everything but I was right about the Albert Lea Water and Sewer Fund not wanting to pay much more than the $600,000. in the Capital improvement Plan.. Steve explained that the figures in the CIP are from 2003..
The cost of the project has went up $800,000. but the City Water and Sewer fund is set to pay only $638,000. of the project..
The Lift Station pumps can't keep up..
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: May 21 2015,7:37 pm |
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That 6th St. to Newton sanitary sewer is being replaced..
The storm sewer at the old Donut Place was added to send water to Virginia Pl because the Broadway connections couldn't handle all the water..
If we lived in a perfect world, I would be invisible.. I've had a severe case of stage fright since I refused to go down the aisle at a wedding as a ring bearer when I was 3.. All it took was everyone turning around to look at me and the little girl.. I got her crying as hard as myself and neither one of us made it down the aisle..
Fame.. Hardly..
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: May 22 2015,3:51 am |
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Who has been flooding S Virginia Place since before the Federal Government funded the City of Albert Lea to buy out all the properties on S Virginia Place?
Lets just say that the culprit has been right under our noses.. Not to act like Sherlock but as you can see in the photo below, the yellow zig zag going from top left to bottom right is a storm sewer line that was installed to drain rain water from Broadway Ave.
There had to be homes where you now see the Zig and the Zag or there would be no Zig and Zag.. It would run straight East to the street and then South to the lift station..
Long story short, the City of Albert Lea has been responsible for flooding their own neighborhood for at least the past 37 years..
The lift station was only meant to pump so much water and then came the Zig and the Zag and history was changed forever..
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: May 22 2015,4:30 am |
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I just found out recently from the feasibility report that I got from the City Engineer is that my street was last paved way back in 1963.. 52 years ago..
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: May 26 2015,11:00 am |
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The estimated cost of this project has increased by 60% since 2002 which would be the rate of inflation and is very understandable.. That 60% also includes 2 additional blocks on 5th St..
Why would assessments for the same project go up 318% since 2002? The assessment policy change of 2006 should not affect neighborhoods in need of reconstruction with a previous Feasibility Report prior to 2006..
Interest rates were very low and assessments were so much more affordable.. Did Al Brooks vote in favor of the change in the Assessment Policy?
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Dec. 07 2015,5:50 am |
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Lets not forget the storm sewer problem caused by the City of Albert Lea on Virginia Pl..
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